Youth Curfew Proves Not So Simple

by Melinda Tuhus | November 2, 2006 8:35 AM | | Comments (5)

Controversial former New Haven police chief Nick Pastore made an appearance at a public hearing to discuss a proposed youth curfew — or at least his words did. Community leader Barbara Tinney invoked them as she began her statement in opposition to the proposal.

Tinney, executive director of New Haven Family Alliance, said her agency deals with many of the families who would likely be impacted by the proposed 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew for youth 17 and under. “A curfew creates an ‘us and them’ mentality” between cops and kids — that, she said at a hearing Wednesday night in the aldermanic chambers — was the thrust of a comment Pastore, who ushered in community policing in the 1990s, made in opposition to another proposal for a curfew back then. Tinney said she fears violators of such a curfew would be funneled into the criminal justice system, which she called “a slippery slope” to be avoided.

Instead, she said, “We need to invest resources in young people — in youth employment, educational opportunities, we need to invest in families. We need to put as much emphasis on the front end of this work as we do on the back end once they’re in the [criminal justice] system.”

A murmur swept through the crowd in the aldermanic chamber when she mentioned that the city’s plans to welcome Hurricane Katrina survivors to New Haven last year included many job offers for them — yet the city cannot offer summer jobs or any jobs to the majority of youthful residents who want them.

Aldermanic Youth Committee chair Bitsie Clark (pictured with Beaver Hills Alderman Tom Lehtonen) presided over the Committee of the Whole meeting. She had invited half a dozen city officials and community leaders to get a range of views about the proposal, put forward by Alders Joyce Chen, Yusuf Shah, Liz McCormack and Michelle Edmonds-Sepulveda.

First some of the sponsors made impassioned statements about the need for such a curfew as a way to protect youth from being either victims or perpetrators of violence — sometimes deadly violence as was seen over the summer, when a spate of killings occurred. Two of those murdered were just 13 years old, and in several cases the suspects were also teenagers.

Then, Corporation Counsel Tom Ude explained that, based on curfews passed in other cities, it would be difficult but not impossible to craft an ordinance that would stand up to inevitable court challenges. “It must be substantially related to the problem that’s been identified,” he said. (There was not agreement on exactly what that problem is.) He did not analyze the specific proposal before the Board of Aldermen, because it’s likely to change before it would be brought up for a vote, but aldermanic President Carl Goldfield suggested it would be helpful to get a legal analysis of it sooner rather than later, so alders could make a more informed decision about what constitutes a defensible curfew ordinance.

Among the concerns raised was the punitive nature of the proposed ordinance, which restricts youthful behavior and fines parents, even though the sponsors of the ordinance see it as a way to help protect youth who are on the streets at night.

Police Chief Cisco Ortiz said he has many concerns about it. One was that if his officers pick up curfew violators, “There is no place to take kids for meaningful referrals,” as proposed in the ordinance.

School Superintendent Reginald Mayo painted a picture of “the good old days,” when, as he told it, all the adults knew what all the kids were up to and weren’t shy about stepping in or reporting unacceptable behavior back to parents. He said 21st century society needs to bring back some of that old-fashioned community spirit. But, dealing with reality, he said he worried that if police try to stop a youth after 10 p.m., many kids’ first instinct is to run away, and that could lead to much worse problems, especially if a cop thinks a youth may have a weapon.

Roger Vann, a New Haven resident and parent and head of the American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut, registered his strong opposition to the curfew. (Click here to read a previous story outlining his views.) The ACLU argues that such curfews are unconstitutional.

Greg Smith, a parent activist from the Dwight neighborhood, said a curfew might work, but only in conjunction with many other programs and services to prevent youth violence and support families.

Todd Foster (pictured on the left, with Roger Vann, as the two waited to testify), pastor of Church on the Rock, was probably the most favorably disposed to the idea of a curfew, but he echoed what several other speakers said. “I think it should be pursued, but if there’s not a direct tie-in to services offered along with it, better not to do it.”

The Board of Aldermen will hold two public hearings specifically for people 20 years old and younger to testify on the curfew: Nov. 29 at 6 p.m. at Hillhouse High School, and Nov. 30 at 6 p.m. at Wilbur Cross High School. Bitsie Clark said two meetings were scheduled to accommodate youth who felt they couldn’t safely venture across town due to “beefs” they or their friends have with kids from other neighborhoods.







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Posted by: Rev. Todd Foster | November 2, 2006 10:06 AM

My complete thoughts for consideration of any kind of meaningful, feasible curfew implementation are included at this link:

http://www.rocknewhaven.org/Board%20of%20Alderman.doc

Posted by: robn | November 2, 2006 1:16 PM

If an increased New Haven residential occupancy, and new big box stores like IKEA are pumping tax dollars into our city government, then why is our city govenrnment not able to increase police presence in the evenings? Wouldn't police presence make crime decline...as opposed to trying to bottle kids up at night? Potential trouble makers are going to be more inclined to break curfew anyway and if cops aren't on the streets, who is going to notice? (that is, notice BEFORE a crime is comitted.)

Isn't successful management of tax dollars the cornerstone of the curent administration? Do any sharp NHI readers have any stats on tax dollars and city expenditures for police over the past few years?

Posted by: nfjanette [TypeKey Profile Page] | November 2, 2006 4:37 PM

“A curfew creates an ‘us and them’ mentality� between cops and kids -- that, she said at a hearing Wednesday night in the aldermanic chambers -- was the thrust of a comment Pastore, who ushered in community policing in the 1990s, made in opposition to another proposal for a curfew back then.

That mentality already exists, and not just between cops and kids, but between lawful citizens and unlawful teens in this city. The civic leaders simply can't be honest enough to admit the disaster that already exists - perhaps because they fear blame for the situation. Such blame, however, should more accurately be spread far and wide across many years. Indeed, the ideas to create activities to occupy otherwise lawful kids should be fully funded and implemented, including programs to teach skills and create jobs.

But, no matter what the contributing factors, this city needs to step up and hold the teens and their parents responsible for the level of crime and uncivilized behavior that they have perpetrated upon most of the city. An enforced curfew seems worth a try, and I suspect a rather large portion of the adult population would support the effort, because things are out of control, plain and simple. If the ACLU has an issue with this, I look forward to their funding of private security guards to make my neighborhood safe enough to walk around in after dark - heck, how about safe enough to walk around during the day?

Posted by: THREEFIFTHS | November 2, 2006 7:14 PM

The Youth That I Have Taik To Have Told Me That This Curfew Is A Joke, Because If Someone Is After
You They Will Get You At The Bus Stop Before You
Get To School Or They Will Get You At The Bus Stop When You Leave School, Or Follow You Home Or Wait For You To Get Home From School.Studies Have
Shown That Youth Violence Happens To and From School And At Times Inside the School. Studies Also Show That Most Youth Carry Weapons For Protection. What We Need To Focus On Is The Gun Laws In The Country That Allow Lax Gun Laws.

Posted by: Alanna | November 17, 2006 12:09 PM

i think the curfew is a terrible idea

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