Dixwell Examines City Tax Plan

by Melinda Tuhus | May 23, 2007 1:36 AM | | Comments (6)

cordelia.JPGCordelia Thorpe (pictured) asked city bureaucrats for financial relief on account of bullets flying through Dixwell. Others questioned the senior tax plan.

Did recent property revaluations in the Dixwell neighborhood, which boosted property values and therefore taxes, take into account “the fact that we can’t sit on our front porches for the gunshots?” Thorpe asked city bureaucrats Tuesday, one short week before aldermen vote on the city budget. “We should get some relief because we can’t sit outside.”

david%20and%20lisa.JPGThe answer from Acting City Tax Assessor David Ambrose (pictured at left of photo), at a meeting Tuesday night at the Wexler-Grant school, was yes. He called gunshots an example of “external obsolescence” and said desirability is one of the factors that’s considered when doing property revaluations. “Neighborhood adjustments have been taken into consideration,” he said. But Thorpe was disappointed to learn that it had already been factored in, and therefore she would not be seeing a lower tax bill for raising it.

Their meeting came one week before aldermen are scheduled to vote on the mayor’s proposed $445.2 FY07-08 budget, which is expected to be shaved down to require a 6 to 7 percent tax hike. (Click here and here for background on the city budget.)

Ambrose explained that the assessor’s job is not to create the market, but rather to reflect value. He said the city values 27,000 properties, and uses the sale of many properties in each neighborhood to set the values.

paul%20.JPGHouses in Dixwell and Fair Haven - two of the city’s poorest neighborhoods - increased in value, percentage-wise, more than those in other parts of the city. Paul Nuñez (pictured), mayoral Deputy Chief of Staff, tried to put a positive spin on that fact. “It’s a great thing,” he said, “because it shows that New Haven as a whole is a great city to live in. Housing values are higher than they used to be, so your house is worth more. The negative side is that when your house is worth more, you pay more in taxes.”

The meeting was organized by Lisa Hopkins (pictured with Ambrose, above), head of a Dixwell homeowners’ association. She had invited Ambrose, Nuñez (sitting in for Mayor John DeStefano), new 22nd Ward Alderman Greg Morehead, mayoral candidate James Newton, and Gary Doyens, who lives in Westville (“the working class section of Westville,” he said), one of the most well-informed and active New Haveners on the issue of city finances. That comes from years of attending alderman finance committee meetings, he said.

Senior Tax Plan Draws Skeptics

greg%20and%20gary.JPGDoyens (pictured on the right with Alderman Greg Morehead) said he was glad seniors over 70 years of age are getting a break on their taxes, but he pointed out that that $1 to $2 million in lost revenue would have to be made up by the rest of the city’s property taxpayers. He said in his case, his taxes have risen from about $4,000 in 2003, when he bought his house, to about $5,600 after the revaluation. Click here for his comment about consequences of the increase.

One audience member asked why the age at which seniors can qualify for the tax freeze was set at 70, and not younger. Nuñez replied that it was state-mandated. They also must have incomes of $50,000 or less and have lived in the city for at least 10 years. Seniors with incomes between $50,000 and $75,000 may get a deferral for the increased property taxes. “Deferment does not mean it’s free,” Hopkins cautioned.

When a senior either sells his or her house or dies, the accrued tax deferment would come due, explained Nuñez.

Several people expressed concern about what happens in the latter case, when a person dies but the house isn’t sold. Would heirs lose the house if they were unable to pay the city lien attached for deferred taxes? Click here for a dialogue between Hopkins and Nuñez, in which he answers some questions, but does not explain that lingering question.

The Board of Aldermen is set to vote on the proposed budget on Tuesday, May 29.







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Posted by: Alderman Greg Morehead | May 23, 2007 7:31 AM

Just wanted to say that the forum that was held on last night was a good way for the individuals that attended to learn more about the senior tax freeze. I invited various officials from the city to have input on this topic, Paul Nunez, David Ambrose, Alderman Charles Blango-D20, Alderwoman Katrina Jones- D21, Yusef Shah-D23, and i would like to say that those officials who spoke did a great job in shedding light on the tax freeze, the five year phase in, the budget, and how the board of Aldermen votes. The senior tax freeze is already in place, but just to point out, IT IS A CHOICE. It is not mandated that the seniors have to take advantage of it. I would like to invite everyone down to our meeting on May 29th at City Hall where we will vote on the budget. I ask you also to not just come to one meeting, but be involved with other meetings that the Board of Aldermen has so you too can have an active part in democracy. For a list of meeting dates that we have, visit the city's website and click on Board Of Aldermen. I always have to end by saying this, Don't talk about it, be about it!
Be involved also and have open dialogue with your current Alderman/Alderwoman because how do we know something is an issue if it isn't expressed to us to address.

Thanks
Alderman Greg Morehead
203.507.7766

Posted by: Willie Williams Jr | May 23, 2007 7:56 AM

The City of New Haven Is In Debt $30,000,000.00 Million Dollars and Has Been For Over 5 Years. Your Property Taxes Are Going To Increase 25% In 3 Years. This Is How You Cut Your Home Owners Property Taxes By 40% NOW!. Cut The City of New Haven Personnel Staff 5,300 Persons By 25% In ALL Departments...Personnel Earning $80,000.00-$160,000.00 per. Year. We Have Computer Technology In 2007 If They Are Not Computer Literate Get Rid of Them. Cut The Police Dept By 20% and STOP! ALL This Unnessary Over Time. Place Video Surveillence Cameras At Stretigic RED Areas and Super Lights That Produce 5 Times The Light. The Technology Is Avaible, Use It. They Create Scenarios To Produce Over Time. The Police DO-NOT! Stop Crime, They Come In After The Fact Which Is Non Productive and A Joke. If The Police Would Inforce The "Loitering", "Trespassing", and "Pan Handling Laws" Write These People Up With $85.00 Tickets Would Go A Long Way In Fair Haven. People Cannot Stand At The Bus Stop In Peace and Wait For The State Bus On The Corner of Ferry and Grand. Drug Dealers Every Where In The Parking Lot and Behind The U.S. Post Office. The City of New Haven and The State Can Get $10,000.00 per. Day Writing Tickets In That Area. They Park Their Cars In The Parking Lot Buy Drugs and Mess With Little Girls Going and Coming From The Fair Haven Middle School. 1 Police Officer 8:00 A:M:-4:00 P:M: and 1 Police Officer 4:00 P:M:-12:00 Midnight On The Corner of Grand and Ferry Will Break That Mess Up. People This Is Not Rocket Science, Any Fool With A $5.00 Disposable Camera Can See This.

Posted by: charlie | May 23, 2007 11:13 AM

Instead of complaining about a few gunshots, go and do something about it. Don't expect the world to do your work for you. Get involved in the community, help mentor local kids and call the police more often with tips. Government is here to run the landfill and fire department, not to solve everyone's issues by throwing everyone else's hard earned money at the problem.

Posted by: Valuation | May 23, 2007 11:57 AM

It must be noted that Vision did not have a statisical number of sales in many neighborhoods, and the sales they did have, were generally houses that had been significantly fixed up and sold to LLC's comprised of absentee owners looking for income and tax benefits. "External Obsolescence" this item was not applied to most residential areas, just ask Vision to show where they reflect that. The answwer is if a house sold around there it was subject to the same influences bso no adjustment was made. There was nobody working for Vision that even visted this town prior. The people were from RI, Vermont and MA. and had never been here. They drove by houses and didn't even stop. The sales are all old, in fact they are mostly 2004 and 2005 sale prices. 2006 sales were not even available, since the transfers were not up to date in the assessor records. Just ask for the sales used oin your neighborhood, by law the sale have to made available for review. This same thing happened in 2001. Those that could afford to appeal, meaning a lawyer and appraiser fees, ghenerally got reductions. In fact, most of the growth in the 2001 Grand List was lost due to appeals, just ask for the report. One important thing should be noted, and that is the Conn. General Statues allow for a reval at anytime, not just on the suggested days. Knowing that the values were mostly based on older sales which occurred in the height of the housing market should be reviewed by the Finance Committee. Also since these sales were the ones used and the valuation model was set for 2005, why did the city pay an additional $80,000 to delay the reval to 2006? If that was the case wouldn't the 2006 sale be most relevant? Again, ask how many people in the assessor office have any experience in appraisal, you will find none left. Look in the paper, even the real estate assessor job is vacant, or soon to be. This is a heartbreaking set of lies by people who know very little about valuation. And Paul is wrong...just becuase the house goes up in value, doesn't mean taxes go up. The thing that drives taxes is the spending. If the budget was stabilized, and property values went up the mil rate would drop and taxes could be stabile, any real estate person knows this.

Posted by: Valuation | May 23, 2007 1:15 PM

Just an example...look at 628 Winchester Ave. It sold in 2005 for $77,000 and was blighted, Vision has a FMV of about $188,000. The photo is old, this house is trashed, no windows, sheetrock, plumbing etc. How was this possible?

Posted by: cedarhillresident [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 23, 2007 4:50 PM

When is the aldermen apporoval meeting for the budget???

May 29, at 6:00 ?? I think The whole city should be there!! Gather up and transport everybody you can find!!

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