New Haven Independent

Posted by: Cait Sith | June 29, 2007 9:15 PM

sorry johhny and cisco, too little too late. aww, who is going to vote for this guy to take Rell's place now? Certainly not after New Haven continues to shoot itself apart complete with illegal aliens eventually playing active or innocent roles.

It's time some one started speaking in terms of a complete replacement of the Mayor and the Chief. And of course the worst of all of the lot - the executive staff - the clueless wonders.

Just remember New Haven taxpayers, keep an eye on how your money is spent, even though you won't like how they do it. Those who pay taxes pay for services for those who don't (pay taxes).

And it's just going to get worse. The taxes are going to keep going up and more and more families will be moving out and eventually turning New Haven into Yale and "whatever you call the other parts". The tax base will continue to suffer the DeStefano Administration until they all move out of shoot-em-up-nuevo-haven that pseudo legal city.

Then Yale might pack up and go to the former Bayer site in West Haven that they just bought. Give up the so called "downtown ivy league charm" for a safe secure centralized campus.

Then where New Haven be? Like a wasteland.

Thanks Cisco & JD! Glad to see my money wasted!

Posted by: FairHavenRes | June 29, 2007 11:58 PM

As far as our slap happy statistic quoting Chief Ortiz, his time has been up for awhile. I can not believe that his handlers (who is this kid smuts), werent bright enough to see that the public perceives Ortiz as defensive and cloaking himself in the reams of statistics.

Chief, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME CRIME IS DOWN OVERALL. What concerns me is what is happening in my neighborhood, kids running wild, drug house selling all hours, prostitutes walking about and down Ferry Street, fear to be out at night, rude dispatchers, and minimum coverage in Fair Haven.

Of these 27 new recruits, how many were trained in the New Haven Academy? If we thought our overly defensive, slap happy statistic quoting, tell me everything is ok Chief Ortiz has destroyed community policing, just wait until these new cadets hit the street.

Cisco, take the retirement and the consultant job, you are a danger to public saftey.

Posted by: Taxed To Death | June 30, 2007 4:41 AM

We have armed patrols in Westville -- who cares about crime statistics? Who belives these statistics anyway? Quite frankly, I don't. Here's why:

1. These same two men, Ortiz and DeStefano were the same ones who were clueless that internal affairs at the cop shop was dysfunctional to the say the least.

2. They didn't know Billy White and company were playing footsie with the money, their busts and their taxpayer paid for time.

3. These crime statistics are coming from DeStefano and Ortiz who both have vested interests in reporting lower numbers.

4. These crime statistics are coming from the same people who account for them -- fox in the henhouse kind of thing.

5. Ortiz can't track his overtime -- how can you track crime?

6. DeStefano and his band of merry yes men and women on the NH BOA just got outed with a continuing deficit of $6.7 million which he knew about when he was running for governor, according to a mayoral candidate. This not only violates our charter, it's dishonest.

7. There is a whopper of a tax increase in our mailboxes this month -- the mayor blames a lot on the revaluation of our homes. In fact, his five year plan of large tax increases is a direct result of his spending, not revaluation. Another dishonest tactic.

And we're supposed to be believe crime is down? Think again.

Posted by: cedarhillresident | July 1, 2007 9:49 AM

I agree with all the comments above.

Who are they trying to fool?? Themselves?? The Media??
FairHavenRes is in the same boat as we are. Grant it my area has a few less drug house than 4 years ago but that is from the communitys work. We have 2 main places that bring bad traffic in our area that need to be addressed. I was working on my street (which I do everyweekend because I can not get public works to sweep the even side!! Which I have begged for all year!! SWEEP MY DANG STREET) and picked up dirty needles this week.
Johnny, Cisco do you have to clean up condoms, bags, and needles on your streets weekly???
Untill this is not a fact of life for many of us, the city is in bad shape!!
And ditto on all above statements!

Posted by: Been Called Worse | July 1, 2007 1:32 PM

Good thing we have Destefano and Ortiz to blame for the crime stats, otherwise people would have to take personal responsibility for the communities they live in. By show of hands, how many people here are involved in their Block Watch, or attend their community management team meetings? Just a thought...

Yes, the problem with the crime stats released are that they are unaudited. Deriving statistics from Calls for Service data is problematic at best, as these are raw numbers. By all means hold ortiz responsible for not reporting audited data to the state and feds. But the stats do offer a snapshot of crime trends, and if it is trending down, it's trending down.

We can all post here and boo hoo about crime, or the perception thereof, but of course that is easier that coming up with solutions (as a community) to stem the trends identified in the article.

Posted by: cedarhillresident | July 1, 2007 4:51 PM

Rasing my hand really high on that one "been called worse"!!!
Crime Down?? Are you really sure about that?? Where do you live?? Believe the hype if you must.

Let me ask you a question... When communities report houses and places of businesses that have illegal activity...not week after week, not month after month...but YEAR AFTER YEAR you call that unnecessary boo hooing!! Please, some of us see crime being allowed in certain areas.

Posted by: cedarhillresident | July 1, 2007 5:35 PM

PS Even though I am mad about crime I do stand by our officers and yes even Ortiz. I just think there has to be a better way of getting the job done right.

Posted by: charlie | July 1, 2007 5:59 PM

A better way of doing things: Arrest the thugs, do street searches, and send all of them to prison for minimum 30 year sentences for illegal gun possession, 50 years minimum no parole for violent offenses.

Posted by: cedarhillresident | July 2, 2007 8:22 AM

"A total of 85 people were non-fatally shot in the first half of this year"

plus 3 more after last night. Including the 8 year old!!!!

Posted by: Taxed To Death | July 2, 2007 8:31 AM

I always think it funny to hear DeStefano supporters tell us the real problem with crime or taxes or anything in New Haven is the citizen's fault, that we should be involved more, that we should play greater roles in the neighborhood management or block watch. B.S. DeStefano and Ortiz are well paid -- well in excess of $100K a year to handle these things. That's their job. They're supposed to spend 40 hours a week working on this stuff. They have very generous benefits that are part of the retirement package that is killing New Haven taxpayers. We all call the police when we see something suspicious -- we don't have to be involved in block watch to do that. From having watched the Edgewood managment group -- I'd rather not participate. You have a bunch of "dialogue" people who could talk a problem to death and never take action. Action is what is needed and public employees and elected officials who want to accomplish something other than dialogue it. Perhaps if the mayor spent as much time worrying about crime as he does the illegal immigrants, we might actually be more safe. When was the last time the mayor called a press conference or walked a beat to protect a neighborhood? lol...yeah..exactly my point.

Posted by: anewday | July 2, 2007 12:42 PM

I guess this headline could read:

"New Haven Shooters Aim Gets Worse in 2007"