New Haven Independent

Posted by: robn | July 31, 2007 1:04 PM

The New Haven Register has certainly wasted no time promoting gun manufacturers and alarm companies with their hysterical far mongering...

http://www.nhregister.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=18638535&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517515&rfi=8

It would be worth your while to cool off a bit before purchasing a weapon or an alarm system. Time hasn't yet revealed the full circumstances of the Petit case.

Posted by: on whalley | July 31, 2007 2:34 PM

Hey! He's got a 590 in that Register picture. I have one of those. It's fantastic. The same thing is used by the military. Never fails to feed.

Somebody actually tried telling me that the guys involved in the Cheshire break-in casually walked into WalMart and purchased a "gun."
Well, they did! An AIR RIFLE. Now, I dont know if this person speaking to me actually thought an AIR RIFLE (BB gun) was a genuine firearm or if they just naturaly fell back on his "hate WalMart and anything with a trigger" fear reflex but he was wrong. Foolishly wrong. This fear of guns, is by the way, a result of fear mongering.

The fear mongering goes both ways. WalMarts and air rifles will get us all killed or a law abiding citizen with a shotgun may protect his family?

Obviously ROBN thinks a desire to protect yourself is a result of fear mongering. Why wear a seatbelt? All that traffic accident fear mongering must have gotten to us.

No gun has ever walked out of its case, removed its lock, loaded itself and pulled its own trigger in the direction of any living thing.

Posted by: jms | July 31, 2007 3:26 PM

Robn,

"Time hasn't yet revealed the full circumstances of the Petit case."

You know something we don't know?

JMS

Posted by: THREEFIFTHS | July 31, 2007 3:56 PM

The Best Protection From Home Invasion Is What My Daughter Has And That Is Four German Breed Schulzhund Train Rottweilers. She Has Never Had A Home Invasion And The Size Of Her Rottweilers God Help The Person Soul Who Would Think About Trying
To Break Into Her House.

Posted by: True New Havener | July 31, 2007 5:07 PM

For once 3/5ths and I agree!

Posted by: on whalley | August 1, 2007 8:33 AM

Careful THREEFIFTHS, those dogs are great and everyhome should have a dog as a matter of course but there are motions in the works in this state and all over the country to arbitrarily make breeds of dogs illegal. From the sloppy ol' rotty to anything remotely resembling what the media calls "pit-bulls." Last I knew the pit-bull isnt even an official breed designation and is made up of so many different breeds and likenesses that a ban on this dog would carry all the noise, nonsense and idiocy of a ban on "assault rifles" whatever they are supposed to be. The ATF itself has admitted that no such ban is genuinely possible as to define the term with any certainty is impossible.

Theyre coming for your dogs. Trust me.
http://dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/breedlaws.html

If they get their way the only thing I'll be able to shoot is a water gun and the only dogs you'll be able to keep are bichon frises. Both my water gun and your bichon will be heavily taxed and regulated. It's a brave new world.

Posted by: THREEFIFTHS | August 1, 2007 10:54 AM

First Let Me Say That The AKC Breed Designation Is Call The American Staffordshire Terrier And The American Pit Bull Terrier.My Daughter Got Her Rottweilers At The Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show At Madison Square Garden In New York. Before
She Got The Dogs The Seller Did A Background Check
Came To Her House And Made Her Sign Legal Papers
That These Dogs Will Be Only Breed In This Blood
Line And If She Did Not She Can Be Sued In A Court
Of Law For Breech On Contract.I Doubt If This Law Will Pass Because What Are You Going To Do With Show Dogs That Are On This List Of Breeds They Would Like To Band? The Akc And Wkc Is Already Fighting
This Law. Google In German Schulzhund Training And You will See The Type Of Traning Her Dogs
Have. My Two Year Old Grandson Can Sit In The Yard
By Himself And No One Will Come Near Him. I saw Her Dogs Pull A TractorTrail Tire Apart.So Like I Said God Help The Soul Who Thinks About Breaking
Into Her House!!!

Posted by: cedarhillresident | August 1, 2007 4:15 PM

Hmmm dogs are a help personally I have never meet a Rottweiler that was not a big teddy bear I always thought of them as goofy?
I actully do all the tips that I got from Joe. There is no garanttee but everylittle thing you do does at the least helps make it less easyer for them.

Posted by: robn | August 2, 2007 9:30 AM

OW, No fear mongering...just caution. Even though firearms only account for about 1% of accidental deaths and about 3% of total deaths, just as I wouldn't voluntarily introduce heart disease of rebnal failure into my household, I wouldn't introduce a firearm. Especially since its not conclusive that the Petitis would have been able to protect themselves unless maybe they had firearms directly on their person. Assuming the home invaders got the drop on the family, would there have been an opportunity to retrieve a firearm from a locked box or cabinet?)

JMS, I don't know something you don't know however, in the words of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"... what I'm implying is that the headlines state the probable and the improbable hasn't, to our knowledge, been explored.

Posted by: on whalley | August 2, 2007 9:55 AM

3/5ths, The forces behind these laws dont care about the show dogs or the kennel clubs anymore than the forces behind gun control care about collectors, sportsmen or the NRA.

If you value your dogs I urge you to take an active role in fighting any such legislation.

Soon the government will not only decide which breeds you may keep but currently the government has decided how many dogs you may keep.
http://www.courant.com/news/custom/topnews/hcu-whdogs-0731,0,1538596.story

These dogs are being cared for and are in no danger of abuse or mistreatment and her neighbors have no complaints about the dogs yet here we are with another "government knows best" scenerio playing itself out.

So let the government go door to door ripping pets from childrens arms and euthanising them. Its for the public good after all. Isnt it?

Dont sit tback and expect the kennel clubs to fight for you. Theres corruption, politics and lobbyists everywhere and very few voices are heard as clearly or loudly as the frightened citizen begging for futher taxation, regulation and legislation. Even the NRA has succumbed to political forces of fear on more than one occasion. Your sisters dogs will be killed to satisfy a voting mass of paranoid and frightened fools.

Dont let it happen.

Posted by: on whalley | August 2, 2007 11:14 AM

You're free to make that choice ROBN. My only wish is that you do not cross the line and begin attacking my freedom and my choice as so many firearm opponents do. I don't want to tell you how to live (I have no right or desire to) and I expect the same courtesy from you.

A member of their family may or may not have reached a firearm in time to defend themselves. There are countless methods of storage and the individual and the household must decide how they wish to store their firearm(s) within the boundaries of the law of course. We'll never know if a firearm in the house would have saved them. Merely owning one is not a guarantee of safety any more than it is a gurantee of disaster. Chance, ability, willingness and circumstance all play a role in whether you live or die in any situation life hands you.

Posted by: robn | August 2, 2007 1:24 PM

OW,

No freedom attacks...just a suggestion for first time buyers to cool off before they purchase.

As far as storage goes...being that 1.7 millions guns were reported stolen during the 90s (FBI data, not speculation) I believe its quite proper for me to hope that firearm owners would hide and lock their weapons when they're not at home. This is more than courtesy; its common sense.

Posted by: Edward_H | August 2, 2007 4:38 PM

The best ways to protect your person,home and family is to have multiple layers of security AND the willingness to use them ALL the time. Some of the simpler things people often overlook are
1)exterior motion lights
2)Good door locks
3)good window locks
4)garage door locks
Most burglars enter a home through an unsecured door or window. The additions of burglar alarms, firearms and security animals are great additions to a home security plan but all of them are not suitable for all people and each of them have their drawbacks as well. Many lifestyles do not allow them the time and expense for the care and upkeep of a pet others don't have the physical or mental fortitude to use a firearm.

ONWHALLEY

Any comments on the S&W Model 327?

Posted by: on whalley | August 2, 2007 7:40 PM

RE: S&W 327

What's not to like about it?

Revolvers will always have a place in my heart for reliability and safety. The .357 is wonderful in that at the range you can plink away with .38 and save some money.

I sometimes carry an S&W Airweight .38 and have nothing bad to say about it.

The 327 will be a beast to carry for sure and might be overkill for the nightstand but that doesn't make it any less beautiful. The tactical rail is great. A tac light on there could mean the difference between an accidental shooting and a well deserved hole in the chest for an intruder.

My bankroll doesn't permit thousand dollar pleasures but if yours does and this revolver fits you you'll have my jealousy. Someone as poor as myself might go with the Taurus 66. Same tactical design in mind, same caliber, one less in the cylinder but half the cost.

Posted by: THREEFIFTHS | August 2, 2007 7:49 PM

On Whalley
If You Would Real Read My Post You Would Have Read
That What I Said Was My Daughter Not My Sister Is The Dog Ownner. This Law You Are Talking About Is Not New It Has Been Around For Years And The AKC And The WKC Have Lawyers Fighting This Law Everytime
It Comes Up. The Lady In The Story That You Are Talking About Is Not Having Her Dogs Take Away From Her She Has Been Told That The Town Directive States That She Must Reduce The Number Of Her Dogs. I Saw A Show One Time That Had Burglars And When The Question Was Ask What Do You Look For When You Break Into A Home And All Of Them Said If You Have A House Alarm We Have Time To Take Things Out Of Your House Before The Alarm Company
Call The Police And The Police Get There.But Depending On What Breed Dog Is In That House We Will Not Go In. They Also Said That Even If You Have A Firearm Some People Sleep So Hard That They Are Able To Get Into You House Take You Property. One Burglar Said He Broke Into A House
And The Man Was Snoring So Hard He Took All Of His Things And Even Took Has Firearm On The Night
Stand. This Is Why Real Any Type Of Dog Will Protect Your Home.