Edgewood Patroller Heads South, Too
by Nick Vinocur | August 7, 2007 8:40 AM | Permalink | Comments (6)
A week before Police Chief Ortiz heads down to High Point, N.C., to learn about a radically new approach to crime- fighting, this man is taking the same trip. His objective? To make sure neighborhood voices stay front and center in discussions about the future of policing in New Haven.
Eliezer Greer (pictured left with Pastor Charles Lewis), founder of an armed Edgewood citizens patrol, announced Monday that he would board a plane for North Carolina early Tuesday morning. On the ground, he said, he will meet with High Point’s Police Chief James Fealy for an exchange about the potential of his new approach to community policing.
The High Point method — which relies on a subtle mix of theatrics, legal muscle and community participation to convince dealers that a life of crime is not in their best interest — has attracted attention from nationwide news sources since last fall. An article , published in the Wall Street Journal in September, 2006, prompted police departments in mid-size cities across the country - including New Haven - to seek inspiration from High Point’s success in reducing its crime rate.
Police Chief Cisco Ortiz said last week that he hoped to gain a better understanding of the High Point method by seeing it up close.
Why was Eliezer Greer - who has no affiliation to City Hall or the NHPD, and has often clashed with Ortiz - taking a privately-funded trip to High Point?
“We look forward to eye-opening conversations in North Carolina tomorrow and hope that, at long last, City officials’ trip to High Point next week will be followed by meaningful change and not just one more stunt,” read a statement from Greer’s group.
That remark echoed the words of Chief Ortiz himself, who last week said that he was not interested in importing “gimmicks” to the city of New Haven. But despite sharing a taste for tough-cop talk, the relationship between Greer and Ortiz has been strained over the past month, as members of the EPDP have blasted the police department for its alleged failure to address crime in their neighborhood.
Greer repeated this criticism Monday, saying that crime-fighting measures recently proposed by the NHPD - such as fielding more bike cops to fight street crime - suffered from mismanagement and were unequal to the task of taking on drug dealers and criminal gangs.
“Promises have not been met,” he said, referring to a number of encounters with top police brass during which Greer’s Edgewood Park Defense Patrol and other groups called for increased foot and bike patrols. “People expect a basic nominal level of security. That is not being met on a daily basis.”
Then, in characteristic high oratorical style, he added, “New Haven is not Ramadi or Baghdad, as far as I can tell…Too much innocent blood has been spilled on the altar of incompetence.”
Speaking to reporters in front of the police substation at Norton and Whalley, Greer said his trip was not intended to trump Ortiz’s visit next week. It had been funded by an anonymous third party to ensure that the neighborhood group would not be left out of talks about the future of policing in New Haven. In particular, Greer said he was personally interested in learning how Fealy had managed to reduce crime in his district by 20 percent — but also in giving him a “complete understanding of the New Haven situation from someone who’s not a cop” before he meets with Chief Ortiz on Aug. 14.
“I’m not necessarily encouraged by Ortiz’s visit to North Carolina,” Greer said, adding that New Haven needs “more patrolmen in the streets—not chiefs making statements.”
City officials said Greer’s trip to North Carolina did not interfere with their plans.
“Everybody has the liberty to take a trip,” said Jessica Mayorga, head of communications at City Hall.
“We always welcome partnerships with community groups,” she went on. “But what we don’t agree with is groups carrying weapons.”
Monday’s press conference was held against a backdrop of ongoing violence in the streets of New Haven. A triple-shooting in the Hill Sunday night left three victims - two men and a woman - in varying conditions as they recovered from serious gunshot wounds, and a 24-year-old was shot in the calf Saturday on Congress Avenue and West Street. Since the beginning of the summer, a string of violent crimes, including a spike in shootings, has sparked a vigorous community debate about the merits of current police tactics, with many New Haveners calling for a return to the community policing model of the early 1990s.
Chief Ortiz said last week that he has applied for a $1 million federal grant to implement the High Point crime-fighting method in New Haven. If the grant money fails to materialize, he added, City Hall has pledged to advance the funds.
Mayorga insisted that whatever plan was implemented would be tailored to New Haven’s needs.
“We probably aren’t going to replicate it one hundred percent,” she said. “High Point has High Point issues. New Haven has New Haven issues.”
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Posted by: Edward_H | August 7, 2007 12:15 PM
"But what we don't agree with is groups carrying weapons."
City Hall has no right to form an opinion on the decisions of private citizens to legally carry their own firearms. Since when is City Hall allowed to agree or disagree with which constitutional rights we choose to exercise either as individuals or groups? If City Hall put as much emphasis on curtailing the criminal gangs roaming freely throughout the streets of New Haven as they do towards the EPDP there would be less bloodshed in the streets
Posted by: ST | August 7, 2007 1:01 PM
What has happened with the Edgewood armed patrol since the Independent's last article on that group in June? Are they still patrolling? Do they have a noticable presence in the neighborhood or the park? Are they still armed? Have there been any run-ins with other residents or with the police? Please do a story on this. Thanks.
Posted by: westvillecharlie | August 8, 2007 5:52 PM
i hear the greers also held meetings last week with Will Clark, Becker & Becker and James Blake. That's just what i hear, can't confirm it.
A few questions.
1. Will they be riding their bikes all the way down, and if not, will they be bring their guns on to the plane
2. Is their neighborhood STASTICALLY safer now than in the pre gun days
3. Is Ms. Mayorga a Geniuss or what? Good to know that i am now free to take a trip without the mayor's concent, and that new haven does indeed have new haven issues, and not the north branford issues i had originally feared.
it's a damned circus folks.
Posted by: eli | August 8, 2007 8:07 PM
The quote "everybody has the liberty to take a trip" came from the 1997 MISS CUBA (if you don't believe me google it folks) and aspiring latino newswoman Jessica Mayorga. This woman was in her position 14 days after moving to new haven, just a few months before the roll out of the infamous i.d. cards. Is miss mayorga qualified to understand the issues of those of us who were BORN AND RAISED in the elm city? where does she plan to be in ... say five years from now. Are the Greers extreme? Yeah, they are. Have they been pushed over the edge by violent acts against them and their family> Yeah. Is the N.H.P.D.'s leadership weak? Yeah. Is this whole High Point thing, as well as the bike riding chosen posse a couple of publicity stunts? Yes. Are the citizens of New Haven as a whole better off. Nope.
Posted by: VERA | August 9, 2007 10:58 AM
Is it me or has community policing taken on a larger role? And why is MR. Greer going to North Carolina? Please correct me if i am wrong, but
if the Rabbi hadn't been mugged would the jewish community have taken such a stance? or even go to north carolina to discuss the possibilities of crime prevention? because there is more crime now than there was before the Rabbi got mugged.
Also if they want to ride bikes why don't they ride then during rush hour? 12am-6am on the streets of New Haven. OH...They just want to patrol, they do not really police.
Posted by: Josh | August 19, 2007 9:41 PM
The EPDP is awesome and I wholeheartedly support them and their efforts. It's like the movie Boondock Saints -- keep the scum off the streets by any means necessary. Yes, I realize that Boondock Saints was just a movie, but I think it's an awesome approach to deterring crime in a neighborhood, and furthermore, a city. I wish I could meet the patrollers and shake their hands for the damn good initiative they're taking in their neighborhood to try and keep it safe.
Two of my friends live in the area they patrol, and we've never had problems when my girlfriend, friends, and I are over at their place. My car has never been touched out on the street. My friend rides his bike to local shops all the time. Maybe part of the reason we haven't been a victim of crime is because of these brave citizens. A lot of people say "support our troops". I'm not saying not to support the troops (I have friends in the Army, Navy, and Marines), but I say support your local patrol/militia here on our soil, and if applicable, take your neighborhoods back from the low-lifes, drug dealers, and murderers.
To the EPDP, if you read these comments: Don't ever stop. You guys should be in every major city.
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