“Granite” Hits A Wall On State Street
by Melissa Bailey | November 14, 2007 11:47 AM | Permalink | Comments (9)
A man who wants to open a piano lounge on State Street came up against a wall of protest from those who live or own property nearby.
Anthony Urbano wants to build a high-end lounge at 932 State St., next to La Carreta Mexican take-out restaurant, on commercial State Street near Bishop. He’s already got a couch in there and a name for the club: “Granite.”
The bar would serve wine and liquor and would have leather furniture and granite-topped tables, Urbano explained in an application. His proposal was considered, then tabled, by the Board of Zoning Appeals at a Tuesday meeting, where neighbors came forward with parking and other concerns.
BZA member Chris Vigilante, who owns Christopher Martins Restaurant & Pub just two blocks away at 860 State St., made clear his association but said he didn’t think his business ties would bias his vote.
“I feel I can be fair and honest,” Vigilante told Urbano. Vigilante offered the applicant the choice as to whether he should remove himself from voting on the proposal due to owning the bar. Urbano told Vigilante he could stay.
Urbano, who’s seeking a special exception to sell alcohol in a BA zone, detailed his plans for the intimate Granite, which would seat only 25 (storefront pictured). There would be occasional live music from a piano. No dancing. Wine, chocolate, and some food, but nothing prepared on-site.
The proposal met eight opposing replies, in written and human form.
Alex Marathas (pictured at top at right), who lives at Bishop and State, showed up to the meeting with a small group of people with a vested interest in the State Street corridor. He questioned whether another bar was a good idea.
“What kind of establishment would this be?” Marathas queried, speaking of motorcycles and unruly cars down near J.P. Dempseys, shootings outside Humphrey’s East, and boisterousness by Goodfellas.
Adding another bar could bring “irresponsible” behavior, “while bringing nothing new to the neighborhood,” Marathas warned.
Marathas, a parking watchdog, also took issue with Urbano’s parking plan. By zoning law, Urbano needs to come up with four more parking spots. Urbano said he’d made arrangements for valet parking service down to a lot across from the Star Supply site. That’s about two-tenths of a mile away.
Marathas said he doubts people would want to park their cars so far away. More likely, he reckoned, they would circle for much-coveted spots closer to the lounge.
Bob Frew, who owns 922-928 and 934 State St. and used to be an East Rock alderman, shared a story of the “incredible problems” with that specific property in the past.
A porno store once opened there, bringing a crowd of 200 picketers outside the building. It was shut down within a day of opening, Frew said, because the store had only one egress.
While no porn videos are involved in the current plans, and the egress issue has been resolved, Frew did question the prudence of putting a bar in such a small place — a one-story building 15 feet wide and 64 feet deep. His wife, Susan Frew, as well as four neighbors, said they oppose the plan, mainly because of parking.
Nearby condo owner Ben Berkowitz came with a technical complaint: He had not been properly noticed of the application, as is required by law. Fellow condo owners might have been interested in attending had they been noticed, he argued.
Dissatisfied with a lack of documents — Urbano didn’t have a formal lease with his valet parking site, nor an explanation for what would happen to a rear shed — the BZA gave him three days to submit those papers, and tabled the item until a future vote.
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Posted by: Hartford Johnson | November 14, 2007 12:46 PM
Sounds like a great idea. Vigilante and others similarly situated should recuse themselves from the voting.
Posted by: charlie | November 14, 2007 1:09 PM
Give me a break. Is the city really this unfriendly to small businesses? It's not like this is going to be a major nightclub like Humphrey's -- or even a small bar like Christopher Martin's for that matter.
Posted by: Aprill King | November 14, 2007 2:19 PM
I understand why the people of State Street might not want another bar in the area. I think no matter what type of establishment is openned in this zone there will be trouble. The people will probably continue to work against Urbano. I feel he has a right to open his place hence the freedoms of America. If anything the piano lounge may bring bliss to the communtiy and help the economy. Please do a follow-up story on this piece...I must know the outcome.
Posted by: Bruce | November 14, 2007 4:44 PM
I lived in this neighborhood for years and I can totally understand the parking/nightlife concerns. On the other hand, I used to go to a piano bar when I lived down in Miami and it was tons of fun. It's a completely different form of entertainment than going to a typical bar. I would love to see a piano bar in that neighborhood -- I think it's a perfect fit. It's not a big space so I doubt it will really affect the parking situation much. Hopefully it will fill up with people walking in from the neighborhood.
Regarding the walk to the Star parking lot, wouldn't a valet service mean that people drop their cars right in front of the bar and don't have to walk the 2/10 of a mile?
Posted by: cedarhillresident
| November 14, 2007 6:54 PM
Come to the Real Cedar Hill Upper state street. We would love a real business in our area!!
Posted by: Chris Gray | November 15, 2007 3:06 AM
I spent quite a bit of time living on Bishop Street, even good times.
The opponents to this piano bar seem to be doing Mr. Urbano a favor. It seems unlikely that it would thrive.
I shudder to imagine his refined clientele confronted by the uncontrolled shenanigans of a typical Friday or Saturday night in that neighborhood. That is unless the valets are also guards and bouncers, an interesting if provocative addition to the chemistry.
Parking at night is a huge problem. Valet parking seems an unrealistic solution.
Posted by: Westville | November 15, 2007 9:31 AM
or come to Westville for that matter. I love the idea of a piano bar.
Although, you may want to look downtown. It's a great idea. I hope you get to do it. It is a much needed addition to New Haven.
Posted by: Clark Pearlman | November 15, 2007 3:57 PM
I have lived just two blocks away from the location in question for over 30 years and while this may sound like a good idea to those who do not live in the area, there is just no place to park. I am not opposed to the idea of another business on State St. as long as there is a solution to the parking problem.
Posted by: Westville #2 | November 16, 2007 1:12 PM
I agree with Westville #1. There are three brand new store-fronts available on West Rock Avenue that are in need of tenants. I would love to see a piano bar in this area. And there is a growing resident population of artists that I imagine would feel the same. Check it out Mr. Urbano!!!!
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