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Posted by: jasmire | January 14, 2008 9:20 AM

Boy! was it great to see a number of true black leaders there who have endorsed Barack especially Jimmie L. Griffin a long time civil rights activist and prominant national leader in the NAACP. It's very sad to see so many black leaders kissing the rings of Hillary and Bill Clinton knowing thay have done little for black folks with the exception, of going into black churches or night clubs playing his sax and begging black preachers to follow their false hopes of delivering our people people to the promised land, are we still that stupid or is Willie Lynch still around?

Posted by: doug | January 14, 2008 9:55 AM

Ugh, jasmire, that's ridiculous. If you're a Democrat, does it really do your party any good to try to pigeonhole Obama into getting only the black vote? If you think the Clintons' have done "little for black folks," well that's just plain wrong and devisive. If memory serves, people of all colors did pretty well under the Clintons. If you want to vote for Obama, vote for Obama. I probably will too. But don't throw the race card. It does more harm than good and may blow up on Obama in the end.

Posted by: JackNH | January 14, 2008 10:37 AM

Finally, I agree with Mayor DeStefano about something!

Posted by: THREEFIFTHS | January 14, 2008 11:30 AM

Jasmire
You Said That It Was Great To See A Number Of Black Leaders There Endorsed Barack. Who Said These People Are Black Leaders Was A Election Held
By The People To Lead Us.Most Of The Leaders In That room Will Sell You Out In A Heart Beat!!! Second Wake Up Obama Is The Same As The Rest Of The Corporatist Control Politician If He Gets In He Will Do There Biding, Rember He Said He Would Bomb Iran!!! Wake Up People Both Parties Are crooked One Is A Box Spring The Other A Mattress
Both Go Hand And Hand!!! Last Rember One Thing It Is Not Who Comes Out And Vote But Who Counts The Votes And If You Look At The New York Times All Ready There Are Problems With These New Machine!!!

Posted by: cedarhillresident | January 14, 2008 4:35 PM

I am still on the fence for 2 candidates....
The dream that Obama paints is the one I want...He is everything I believe in. He is offering Camelot. Dare I believe that it can become a reality....I need to learn more about if he can pull it off. Educate me people.

Posted by: doug | January 14, 2008 4:47 PM

Box spring-mattress comparison was funny, threefifths...

Assuming you're in favor of some third party, I'm hoping you and your people don't fall for that ploy again in 2008 and take votes away from a good candidate. Third party for president is a bad idea at this point, but not for the House or Senate.

Politicians are people and all people are susceptible to the legalized bribery that is our current campaign finance system. Elect a third-party candidate to any office and they'll be subject to the same slithering, sleazy wiles of lobbyists.

Instead, why not push for real campaign finance reform and funding to enforce it, and then your hope of building a multi-party system will be more realistic. Hold the Democrats and Republicans feet to the fire on campaign finance reform, and accept no excuses on that legislation, and you might eventually get what you want.

Posted by: TrueBlueCT | January 14, 2008 5:48 PM

CedarHill--

The question is whether WE can pull it off. Are you ready to take the Democratic Party back from the same tired hacks who ran it into the ground in the 1990's?

Posted by: transitusers | January 14, 2008 6:44 PM

Well, Senator Williams is boosting young Senator Barack Obama. Goes to figure. Senator Williams was the genius who last session championed the free transit for seniors idea hardly anyone liked according to a NYTimes article while not extending funding for a successful state-local senior para-transit program that had widespread support. And Senator Williams was the genius who supported funding to study the building of the Super-7 Highway between Norwalk and Danbury that was rejected in local regional plans and that Yale environmentals scientists deem an ecological disaster.

Posted by: cedarhillresident | January 14, 2008 7:22 PM

truebluect

"hope" and "inspiration"
is the one thing he has on his side. For the ones that will come out and really vote the race between the inevitable 2 has nothing to do with gender or race...but who can fix the damage done. And I am not talking a band aid. American is crumbling...Obama offers "hope" and "inspiration" which is why I like him. I talk to many and people that never cared are showing interest for the first time in there lives. He has excited the people. And as any good motivational speaker he is getting the masses out and talking. My only fear with this is that in order for him to pull it off these mass can not die down after he is in the white house. Can he maintain the excitement once he is in. If he can then yes I believe that the people can make Senate and congress see it our way or they will lose there dang seats the next election.
But Hilary has a more level headed way of looking at it...she is not asking for it all. But she may at the least get some of it.

I look at them through my own eyes and plights in life...so I am tainted by the injustices that I know...which may not be the best for the whole country.

And I will alway have in the back of my mind they are all still politician...

Urban Dictionary's Definition of politicians
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=politician

Posted by: transituser | January 15, 2008 4:43 AM

I did not see Senator Obama as representing change for the Democratic party when I saw his rally with Senator John Kerry, who put him into prominence at the 2004 Convention. Senator Obama
will help the likes of Senator Kerry maintain and get more power as a less experienced president while Senator Clinton will be more independent of that lot.

Nor do I see Senator Obama as speaking to the
issues of the working class and poor African-Americans I see in the Whalley Avenue Shaw's or on buses.

Maybe this comment--if not the one about CGA Senator Williams as a sad champion of the Norwalk-Danbury Super-7 highway study or free transit for seniors no one liked instead of the popular state-local senior para-transit program--will get posted.

Posted by: THREEFIFTHS | January 15, 2008 4:27 PM

Doug
What Makes Your Candidate A Good Candidate? Second Due To The Set Up Of This Two Party Machine
Third Parties Are Not Allowed To Be In The Debates
Also It Was Not My People That Put King Bush In It Was The Crooked Corporatist Company Diebold Who Made The Machine Use To Rob The People Of There Votes And The Supreme Court Who Put King Bush In, So Blame Them Not Us. Bottom Line Both
Of Your Candidates Are Tweedle Dee And Tweedle Dumb And If I Can Not Write In My Candidate In This Primary Election Then I Will Vote For Tweedle
None!!!P.S. If You Get The New York Times Of Last Week You Will See The Machine That We Are To Vote With Are Have Problems Already!!

Posted by: doug | January 16, 2008 10:09 AM

I've read all about it. That's a different issue and I would support any and all efforts to repair the voting system.

But even Tweedle Dee has a better chance of changing both the voting and campaign finance systems than any third party candidate you can offer at the moment, because there are no third parties that have representation in local or state offices in every state. If you don't have a party organization in every state that has an established record of success, no one but the fringe elements are going to support a third party presidential candidate.

You'd be better off trying to join one of the established parties, building support, and then splintering off as a party of your own. As things stand now, a vote for a third party is generally a vote for the least desirable candidate of the dems or republicans.

Posted by: THREEFIFTHS | January 16, 2008 4:54 PM

Doug
Check Out BBC Reporter Greg Palast And Read His
Reports On DieBold And How The People Of Florida And Ohio Got Rob Also Dennis Kucinich Is Calling For A Recount Of New Hampshire Due To Unexplaned Disparities Between Hand-Counted Ballots And Machine Counted Ballots? Second I Surport Lani Guinier On Her Stand On Proportional Representation Which Is A Better System Of The People Geting Fair Representation On There Isusess
Rember The People Under This Election System Now Do Not Vote For Candidates But Are Voting For The Elector.You Say Join One Of The Established Parties Those Parties Are Controlled By Crooked Town Commitee Bosses. What Happen To The Case Of The Man Who Was A Mental Retard Who Was Forced To The Polls To Vote?Bottom Line Doug This Why I Said Both Parties Are Crooked!!