Public Clued In On Shartenberg Construction
by Thomas MacMillan | September 24, 2008 9:20 AM | Permalink | Comments (6)
The builders came ready to discuss steel and concrete and construction schedules. The public wanted to talk about sidewalks.
With plans to break ground Monday on the biggest new downtown development project in a generation, an informational hearing was held on Tuesday evening for neighbors to hear about the upcoming construction at State, Chapel and Orange Streets.
The effort — formerly known as “the Shartenberg project” and now officially titled “360 State+ — includes a 32-story residential tower (or 26, depending on how various levels are counted), a parking garage, and 16,000 square feet of new retail space. (See previous Independent coverage on the project here, here, here, and here.)
Tuesday night’s hearing was attended by 30 local residents as well as representatives of the developer, Becker & Becker, and Suffolk Construction, the building company in charge.
The meeting, held in the public hearing room in the Hall of Records on Orange Street, was meant to provide opportunity for downtown residents and retailers to ask questions about= logistics — the construction timeline, noise expectations, disruptions to foot and car traffic. And some people did.
But the majority of the questions were about the project’s design, which has already been finalized.
Speakers expressed concern about building aesthetics and pedestrian accommodations and wondered if the design can be changed. One local business owner said he has embraced the building as planned, and just wants to help get it completed.
The Pretty, Safe Side
The very first question directed to representatives of Becker & Becker and Suffolk Construction was about the appearance of the building’s pre-cast concrete facade. Many of the subsequent questions followed up on this aesthetic line of inquiry. Sara Bronin (pictured in top photo), representing Becker & Becker, mentioned several times that the building will feature design ornaments created by Yale School of Architecture Professor Kent Bloomer.
For some people, this wasn’t good enough.
A man in the audience said that while the building looks nice at the sidewalk level, he considers the upper portion unattractive. He worried that it might end up looking even worse. If constructions costs increase as the project progresses, he said, would the builders sacrifice aesthetics in order to save money?
Bronin said that many changes have been made to the design as it has developed, but that “one of the things that’s never been cut is the Kent Bloomer ornaments.”
Other speakers wanted to ensure that the project have comfortable and safe public areas for pedestrians. Mark Abraham (at right in picture), one of the leaders of New Haven’s Safe Streets movement, asked Bronin about the project’s plans for sidewalks and parks.
Bronin said that the sidewalks will be “nothing different from city standard sidewalks” but that they will be plated with trees. She said the developers are looking for funding for a small “pocket park” on the site.
Abraham expressed a concern about rail commuters catching trains across State Street. He said that the usage of the State Street rail station is increasing and that the city would be encouraging jaywalking by not creating a crosswalk directly between the station and 360 State.
City Development Administrator Kelly Murphy said that she would look into the situation.
“We’d be happy to take the city’s direction on that,” Bronin said.
Farwell: Out Of Scale
Anstress Farwell, president of the New Haven Urban Design League and another member of the traffic-calming advocates, expressed concerns about the pick-up and drop-off area for cars on State Street and the tunnel entrance to the parking garage. She was dismayed by what she saw as an unsafe area for pedestrians in front of the tunnel.
“My biggest concern is the whole project,” Farwell said after the meeting.
She pointed to 360 State’s circular logo and said that it was appropriate since the project has “gone in a circle.” Farwell said that the “base and tower” architectural style, which visually prioritizes the project’s parking garage, is “really old-fashioned” and “has nothing to do with the urban environment” of much smaller buildings.
The Orange Side
“These design questions should’ve been asked about a month ago,” Anthony Polshek Jr. said after the hearing. Anthony and his wife Michelle Polshek run the Orangeside Luncheonette on Orange Street. They came to the meeting in matching black Orangeside T-shirts.
“One thing I see is a lot of negative questions,” Anthony continued. “I look at this as a positive.” He said that he is looking forward to having 1,000 new residents within footsteps of his business.
“I think we should look at what we as a neighborhood can do to support it,” he said.
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Posted by: Publicized? | September 24, 2008 10:12 AM
Quick question.... where was this meeting publicized? I can't find it in the City's main calendar, in the NHI's community calendar, or on infonewhaven. Can anyone who attended let us know?
I'd love to attend meetings like this in the future.
thanks!
Posted by: anon | September 24, 2008 10:30 AM
We're going to have 1,000 people living in this building, theoretically mostly young professionals, and no new space on the street designated for bicycles? That is going to create chaos each morning as cyclists steam out of the lobby and onto a street that regularly has 35 mile per hour traffic. Not to mention the thousands of pedestrians coming from the train station right across the street (no crosswalk is planned!). Hopefully the plan to narrow and rebuild State Street will happen sooner rather than later...
Posted by: robn | September 24, 2008 10:36 AM
The aesthetic horse is out of the barn, so to speak. Hopefully the tower won't be so bad. Its a nice that some construction is proceeding in this economic climate. We taxpayers look with anticipation for tax releif in proportion to the gained income from this project. Can city hall quantify that? Exactly how much tax relief can each New Havener gain when this project is on line?
Posted by: steve beck | September 24, 2008 11:22 AM
It came from the downtown-wooster square community management team. It was only for people who live downtown or in Wooster Square. Just kidding.....more people coming to these meetings to hold the "Powers That Be" accountable will only benefit the people who live here. Remember knowledge is power and....power is an aphrodisiac.
go to
dwscmt (at) gmail.com
Posted by: pedro | September 24, 2008 12:12 PM
I do think that the city should look at that entire area in terms of walkability and just having it be a general friendly place to visit.
While I think that Becker+Becker should definitely be pressed on pedestrian concerns, I also think that the city needs to be pressed to make improvements in the area.
I don't really blame Becker+Becker for simply stating the obvious fact that they have no control over what the city decides to do, but I do think that if we can bring them along as partners, that they should be able to help influence the city to turn this major intersection into something FAR more accessible than it currently is.
On the balance, I think that 360 State street is going to be a boon for the area. A full service grocery store in downtown new haven! 1000 more people living there. How can those two things NOT be good things for the city?
While the city didn't choose the "sexiest" or most "new urbanist" design for this area, they DID choose the developer with the most solid financial backing. And that alone mean's that the project is actually happpening. Take a walk over to Mr. Landino's phantom Centerplan to see what happens when you don't have solid financial backing.
Posted by: steve beck | September 24, 2008 4:02 PM
Dear Publicized, Hear is another email from the DWS management team. This looks to be an interesting meeting. In the ballroom, they must be expecting a large turnout, i assume the continuing clusterf--- of the downtown club scene will be a topic of discussion. Try to attend.SAVE THE DATE
Community Forum
Quality of Life Downtown
Thursday, September 25th, 2008
Omni New Haven Hotel
6:00 PM in the Ballroom
A Panel Discussion Featuring Representatives From:
The City of New Haven
The New Haven Police Department
The Board of Aldermen
Town Green
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