New Haven Independent

Posted by: jawbone | June 26, 2009 3:45 PM

What a bunch of children and what a waste of time for the police.
The kids should be charged for the babysitting house call.

Posted by: Norton Street | June 26, 2009 5:44 PM

These apartments shouldn't have been built in the first place. The most important part of the buildings, the place where it meets the street, has been dedicated to parking. Its a gated community in a city (wtf?). Instead of relating to the modest, traditional housing across the street, and around the corner on whalley, this development has decided to cut itself off from the city, the neighborhood and the street. 3 big mistakes that, to anyone with any intelligence, means only failure until those 3 issues are addressed. At least one of those towers needs to be converted into offices (or any place with employment), At least of of the towers should be divided up into more modest housing for moderate income people, and the entire ground floor on each building needs to fitted with shops, stores, restaurants, etc. as well as an open green space that can be easily accessed from the street. A few nice walking paths should also connect to the Westville Village. These are basic, elementary design, and its obvious. Wintergreen apartments is a complete failure and needs to be drastically changed to have any amount of success in an architecturally, culturally and civically significant city like New Haven.

Posted by: Westie | June 26, 2009 10:07 PM

Wintergreen claims the "rent to all" because they have a "fair housing contract" --- nonsense, the response of spindoctors. They reached out to colleges strained to provide housing for students, they put up banners advertising student housing specials, and their website touts "off campus housing at its finest". All of these are far beyond the fair housing act, are marketing, and are conscious business decisions. Now, they need to make a business decision to clean house of knucklehead drunken football players. I am tired of being asked about this development and its problems. Shape up and quit giving our neighborhood a bad rep!

Posted by: robn | June 27, 2009 11:08 AM

If Joe Paterno had players who behaved like this, they'd be lucky to stay on the team, and if they were, would pay dearly for their off field transgressions. If I lived in this neighborhood, I'd take a large group of neighbors to the coaches office and insist that the coach take action .... next stop is the university presidents office.

Posted by: girlsjustwanttohavefun | June 27, 2009 2:22 PM

Penn State they are not. Summer is here and it's been raining cats and dogs. Everyone here has a little cabin fever.

Old folks are just jealous that we're having all the fun!

Posted by: Beaver Hill Resident | June 27, 2009 3:22 PM

Good ideas, Robn and Norton Street!!

Posted by: robn | June 27, 2009 6:43 PM

Discipline+Integrity

Posted by: anon | June 30, 2009 12:12 PM

Norton Street is absolutely correct.

Unfortunately, we'll keep getting buildings like this (or worse -- look at any number of other recent examples around New Haven that are completely destroying the city's fabric) until the city decides to invest in improved city plan and zoning regulations.

Maybe if the state met its PILOT obligations, we could afford that.

Posted by: Stephen H | June 30, 2009 12:19 PM

I lived on Austin St from 2005 thru Jan 2008 and I remember these apartments being built.

The initial monthly rate was way out of whack in terms of the other buildings nearby.

I was very concerned that they could cause my rent to rise but, upon opening they had nothing but trouble renting them out.

What is amazing is that there are very few college students living in the nearby buildings on Austin, Springside, and Blake.

All the other apartments nearby have cheaper rent, no fancy facilites, or gated parking and have little or no quality of life issues.

Price is not always a deterent to bad tenants.