New Haven Independent

Posted by: Jennifer A. | June 3, 2009 8:37 AM

I witnessed the debate last night, and I must say that I thought Justin finished with the upper-hand. He is smart and articulate and illustrated his strong work-ethic and accomplishments. He reminds me a lot of my former alderman in Ward 9, Roland Lemar, who has been amazing in his short time on the council. Allan did ok, but didn't strike me a strong figure on the council and certainly would have a different role. Justin seems like he would have a more meaningful impact. I look forward to meeting both of the candidates in the future as I did not get to introduce myself after the event.

Posted by: jawbone | June 3, 2009 9:13 AM

I was at this meeting and I am generally a supporter of Brison's. However, I feel it is a bit disingenuous for him to say that he supports neighborhood schools. Lets not forget that during his last aldermanic contest, with Ed Mattison, he opposed the site selection and construction of the new "big" Worthington Hooker School. This school is under construction midblock between Everit and Whitney Ave. about two blocks from where Brison lives (on Everit.)
Brison did not support a neighborhood school when it was in his own backyard.
My guess is that he is more AGAINST magnet schools than FOR neighborhood schools.

Its gonna be an interesting race.

Posted by: Peace Frog | June 3, 2009 9:23 AM

It's great to see so many people involved and interested in their neighborhood! I'm glad that Justin's energy is helping make this a lively debate. It'll be exciting to have a contested, real discussion of issues affecting the neighborhood and the city this year!

Posted by: Bruce | June 3, 2009 9:48 AM

I find it fascinating that non-endorsement of Elicker is even an option. Way to look beyond party lines.

I have to agree with Allan regarding the elected board of Ed. When this came up at charter revision a few years ago, the (appointed) committee shot it down claiming that the issues the board deals with, budgets, management, etc., are too complicated and important to submit to the whims of the public. i found this ironic as this very commission was comprised almost entirely of current or former aldermen who were elected by the public to serve these very same functions for the city.

I see no problem with having a hybrid BOE. The state constitution specifically allows for a combination of elected and appointed members. We need a BOE that is at least partly accountable to the public.

Posted by: truthtopower | June 3, 2009 10:59 AM

Brison is a full-time Alderman who has lived in the district for 11 years. Elicker is a full-time student who's lived in it 2 months? How many times did he say he was "learning" about a topic?

Brison has earned the respect of his colleagues and constituents and they value his independent voice.

How independent can Elicker be when the Mayor introduces him as "his choice"?

Posted by: jawbone | June 3, 2009 11:57 AM

I'm sure the mayor doesn't really know Elicker well enough to truely endorse him as 'his choice'. What the mayor is really saying is that Brison is not his choice.

Posted by: helloworld | June 3, 2009 12:14 PM

I'm really glad Justin, a Democrat, is running in Ward 10. A race is always welcome! What I'm curious about is that this was a Democratic Town Committee, so why was Brison there? He's in the Green Party. I think it's great to have a debate, but perhaps not during the Democratic meeting.

Posted by: Debra Hauser | June 3, 2009 12:20 PM

Sorry folks, but the article is a joke. Lets remember, that Melissa Bailey, a reporter for the Independent who lives in Ward 10 and supported Alan Brison, sent another (most likely primed)reporter to cover this story. Just count how many pictures their are of Alan and his supporters, when in fact, most of the 50 or more people there were actually supporters of Justin Elicker. It is astounding to me that the reporter would refer to Justin's thoughtful and coherant explaination of his ideas and values as "pre-planned and bullet point" ridden. To my mind, thats called prepared and intelligent. Alan Brison seems like a nice man who describes himself as going "blank" because he is going to be 70, is that what we want in our alderman? As far as I could tell, Alan Brison did not mention once possible solutions to neighborhood problems or describe anything meaningful he has done at the BOA. Lets face it, in Alan's own words, his candidacy is a "check to the power of the executive branch, ie John DeStefano. Alan is the 1960's anti-establisment choice fueled by people angry with the mayor, and he is no angel. Justin, regardless of his age, is the modern, change candidate, a straight shooter, with compelling ideas and a track record to prove he can get anything done. As far as the debate goes, Justin won hands down, but this race is NOT about the issues its about who will be the most anti-mayor candidate not about who will be most effective, as Justin certainly is heads above Alan with progressive ideas and ways to execute them. Lets remember why the ward committee is really split on Alan Brison. Don't you think its unusual that a democratic ward committee would even think of endorsing a Green Party Candidate? Its because Ray Saracco and Kevin Donohue, who have done a nice job in our ward, owe Alan for helping them get elected. Good for them, but on the merits of these candidates, how could a ward committee clearly endorse Justin who would be best for ward 10. Don't fool yourself folks, this election is worse than politics as usual.

Posted by: bravecat00 | June 3, 2009 12:21 PM

It was great to see a town hall style presentation of two aldermanic candidates. But I am still confused as two why there is even a debate about the committee's endorsement. From the presentation I was able to see that Elicker is a viable candidate for the position. From what was said last night, it seemed that Elicker is very active in making our East Rock a better place to live for us and our families. On the other hand, Brison did not do an affective job of naming his accomplishments as current Alderman. From this, it should be not debate for the committee to endorse Elicker, the candidate that is currently improving the East Rock community and will continue to do so.

Posted by: Allan Brison | June 3, 2009 12:28 PM

Jawbone

During the first part of the 2007 aldermanic campaign, the matter of the Whitney/Everit site for the new Hooker school was in litigation before the CT Supreme Court.

I did not take a stance either way, advocating instead that both sides agree to accpet the court's ruling, however it came down, and not to pursue further legal or legislative measures.

This initiative, circulated in a phamplet throughout ward 10, and reported in two articles in the Independent, was favorably received. Even my opponent agreed to sign on. (See "Brison Floats Hooker Compromise").

After the court ruling came down, midway in the 2007 campaign, and continuing on during my term as alderman, my role has been to effect a reconciliation between the two sides in the dispute. I have been working hard, with I think a good measure of success, to help my Everit Street neighbors accept and welcome the school and to ease the tensions that always exists near major construction sites.

I am now and always have been a strong advocate of neighborhood, as opposed to magnet, schools for primary school-aged kids. My position is that by replicating the successful Hooker model of high parental involvement, we should be making all neighborhood schools good schools.

Allan Brison
Ward 10, Alderman

Posted by: Debra Hauser | June 3, 2009 12:28 PM

Oh and one more thing, Alan says he is for "neighborhood schools" but he did not support the building of the new Worthington Hooker on his street.
Hmmph.....

Posted by: Alphonse Credenza | June 3, 2009 12:37 PM

""I think we're going in the wrong direction with schools. I'd like to see more smaller schools.""

I'd like to see smarter children who work harder. Seriously.

Posted by: Oscar Hotel | June 3, 2009 12:38 PM

I'm not as versed on local politics as other posters appear to be, but here are a few observations from last night's event:
1) Based on a few conversations, it seemed the room was filled mostly with Elicker supporters
2) Elicker seemed better prepared for the event; Brison appeared unfocused and was unable to address questions in the allotted time
3) Elicker appeared to have a vision for the neighborhood and pro-actively addressed specific issues, including crime and traffic congestion; Brison appeared to have a more ad-hoc approach to his duties
4) Education was a hot topic. I found it strange and perhaps hypocritical of Brison to be seeking a stronger role in local schools, considering he noted that he home-schooled his own children. Of course, Elicker does not have children (that we know of)

On a final note, as a resident of Ward 10, I haven't noticed anything that Mr. Brison has accomplished for the neighborhood. If he has, he hasn't made his constituents aware of his achievements, and certainly did not do it last night. It might be worth noting that his effectiveness as alderman may be limited due to his party affiliation and his inability to caucus with the Democrats.

Posted by: Roland L. | June 3, 2009 12:42 PM

What a wonderful night for Ward 10 residents! The broader East Rock/Goatville community is blessed to have many able people willing to serve on the Board of Aldermen.

Ray and Kevin did a terrific job organizing last night's events and allowing both candidates to present a wide ranging view of their prospective actions on the Board. While this article mostly highlights just one exchange, I think the entirety of last night's conversation allowed Justin to evidence his understanding of the issues we care so deeply about in our neighborhood, and I'm more and more certain that he would be a strong and tireless advocate on behalf of our residents.

Allan, quoted above, articulates well two of the important roles that we must fulfill on the Board and for our constituents, but he neglects a few meaningful opportunities we have to develop and influence City policy and direct city investment. While it has been nice to have Mr. Brison offer to sign up in favor of important legislation that I and many of my colleagues have spent significant time developing, and while his speech's can be well-needed food for thought, it has been my experience that nothing is as valuable as someone who is willing to put in the hours and efforts needed to make change happen, behind closed doors and out of the public eye. Getting things done, changing/influencing city policy and helping to direct state/local and Federal investment toward our priority areas is not so easy as signing up in favor of an idea, speaking in favor/against something only after a policy has already been developed, or writing a simple letter of request. It requires working with our city officials and administrators in all stages of the contemplation, development, programming and implementation of their activities and developing a relationship where those same people can view your efforts as being genuine and sincere and not just an opportunity for political gain. In the few years that I have known Mr. Elicker and seen the dramatic and important work he has done for this community, I am excited by the prospect of his energy and intellect being lent to these important components of our work on the Board.

In the end, Ward Chair Kevin Donohue sums it up perfectly when he states that the candidate should be the "best candidate" the one who can "put the neighborhood first and deliver the best results." In my opinion and with my experience, and despite my fondness for much of Allan's political ideology, Justin in the better choice.

Posted by: anon | June 3, 2009 12:48 PM

Traffic is out of control in this neighborhood. How about making Orange Street a "green corridor" that walkers, bikers, wheelchair and transit users of all ages could use to get from downtown (and other neighborhoods) to east rock park without fearing for their lives?

it is absurd that parents have to shuttle their kids in an SUV just to get to the park safely.

Posted by: Streever | June 3, 2009 1:02 PM

Let's avoid the anonymous rumors & bashing & keep this civil.
Three Things

One:
This was an exciting, lively event. Kudos to Ray for his good work in this & so many other things. Typical Ward Committee meetings have attendance in the 6-15 range--last night saw over 60 people, the majority in support of Elicker!--very exciting turn-out.

Two:
The majority of questions asked concerned infrastructure/traffic & crime & communications. Elicker had a variety of plans to tackle each of these issues--
crime: coordinating the neighborhood block watches (of which there are many) and having them under one "umbrella" to be able to share information easily--and many, many other smart solutions (increasing the hours of neighborhood eateries so as to increase the amount of foot traffic--working with existing neighborhood patrols--overall increasing the number of people/eyes on the street to reduce the crimes of opportunity that plague our neighborhood)

Infrastructure/Traffic: Elicker has several crosswalks being installed throughout East Rock Park & has also worked directly with City Plan to ensure that there will be appropriate pedestrian infrastructure across Whitney, which currently has no crosswalks for a significant stretch of road. He also outlined a plan to fix potholes, add crosswalks, signage, & calm traffic as needed throughout the neighborhood, to improve walkability &--increase eyes/people on the street, improving the neighborhood and reducing crime.

Communications: Justin is working on a reverse 311 system which will allow the ward committee/Elicker to send e-mails to individuals on a street by street basis. The same system will also have a public website so you can see a schedule of street cleanings, road closures, construction, etc. the site will allow the blockwatches to post information (like recent crimes, burglaries) in order to keep residents informed. Think the Ward Newsletter v 2.0. I will be building this system for him. A big issue which was raised at the meeting was the lack of significant information from City Hall to residents about issues that directly impact their lives: Elicker noted that this would be his responsibility as the representative of our neighborhood.

Why do people make everything out to be about the Mayor? :) There was almost no focus on this at the meeting.

Three:
TruthToPower: I can only assume you were in attendance last night. I don't think people in the neighborhood expressed any fear of "mayoral favor"--far from it. Both Brison & Elicker stressed the importance of having goals set by their own internal moral compasses & by the neighborhood they represent, while still working with the City government.

If you were at the meeting, it's disappointing that you chose to save such strong words for an anonymous internet forum, instead of being direct & open at the dialogue. You probably felt that, with the peaceful nature of it, it would be disruptive to ask questions that were rude or based on rumor. Odd that you'd think it appropriate to type them here.

Folks, let's try to keep this civil. Both Brison & Elicker are respected members of the East Rock Community who have contributed to it's success. There is no need to spread rumors or make personal attacks on anyone. You'll note that my goal is to share what a candidate has done: NOT make anonymous attacks against a good man who is working hard. Yes, Elicker has lived in Ward 100 for 2 months, but we all know the ward system is a joke: he's lived in Ward 9 for two years and in that time accomplished a very large number of things. He deserves every bit the credit & respect that Allan receives, and is a serious, hard-working individual. There is no need to bash either of these gentlemen--I suggest we all take a cue from the way they conduct themselves & note that neither feels the need to decimate the other.

Posted by: robn | June 3, 2009 1:03 PM

Doesn't the BOA have the authority to unilaterally cut funding for the mayor's BOE, and if so, don't they control it?

Posted by: norton street | June 3, 2009 1:08 PM

What magnets schools were intended to do and why they were first started were good. How this was achieved was easy and not thorough. The way to best achieve a 'magnet school atmosphere' has very little to do with schooling. It has to do with neighborhoods. The neighborhood schools should be completely diverse in every way. How this happens is making the neighborhoods of the city completely diverse. Get rid of the need for massive busing, its completely unnecessary. This could start with the route 34 development. Attractive housing should be provided for business families who work downtown and at the hospitals (which would reduce the number of commuting cars) and also provide affordable housing that melds in with the surrounding neighborhoods. Provide adequate open space for raising children and allowing for people to intermingle.
Later on empty lots in Newhallville, the Hill, and Fair Haven can be developed on to imitate what is done on Route 34.
Once the neighborhoods are diverse, the neighborhood schools will be diverse. Then there is no need for magnet schools, and no need for the extensive busing. Not to mention the good it will do in struggling areas and the reduction in commuting will make New Haven a city again instead of a massive parking lot for suburbanites (who, for the most part, ungratefully talk down on New Haven even though they impact the city in a more negative way than illegal immigrants, section 8 residents, and any other group suburbanites use to justify why they dont live here).

Posted by: Get Over It | June 3, 2009 1:13 PM

Are we still talking about the "New" Hooker School? Look, I was against it but it's obviously a done deal for better or worse. Let's move on (or away if that's your preference...).

Posted by: jawbone | June 3, 2009 1:16 PM

Alderman Brison,
Thank you for the clarification.
You've got a perception issue, however, regarding your past opinions of the Hooker School on Whitney Ave. See Ms. Hauser's comment below yours.
The perception on the street in Ward 10 is that you tried to block that school getting built.

Posted by: Lara | June 3, 2009 1:28 PM

I walked away from last night's meeting with a clear sense of what Justin believes in and what concrete plans he has for the future of Ward 10. Justin spoke about several issues that he has determined are of great interest to community members, including crime, traffic, development and transparency. Not only were key issues identified, Elicker offered several creative solutions he proposes to follow up on. How does he know that these are topics of interest? Elicker is out and about in the community on a regular basis, and not because he is a politician but because he cares. This visibility is just what I am looking for in an elected representative.

While this particular news article seems to hone in on the issue of education, that is perhaps because it was the only issue that Brison addressed with any specificity. I was disappointed to have left the night still totally unaware of what Brison cares most about, what he has accomplished in his previous terms and what he plans to do if re-elected.

I also feel compelled to address a few of the postings in this series. Elicker has not lived in Ward 10 as long as Brison has. Personally, when I first met Justin I was astonished to learn this. What he has taken on and accomplished successfully in a short time is an indication to what we can look forward to with him as our new alderman. Is Justin still learning? Yes, and I would argue, so should we all! I would much rather have someone who is devoted and sincerely interested in learning about the members of this community, the issues effecting us, and how to best address them than someone who is complacent and feels that there is no more to learn.

Posted by: Ward10 Oldtimer | June 3, 2009 3:30 PM

Oh my, oh my. Former Ward 10 Co-Chair Debra Hauser is not dealing well with a New Haven Independent reporter writing an objective article about the Brison/Elicker Ward 10 debate. She probably misses the crush note type articles that Elicker's friend, Melissa Bailey, has previously posted about this hotly contested race.

Elicker did bring his supporters to the meeting, although some of them were from Ward 9, where Justin lived until January, when he moved into Ward 10 to challenge Allan. Since rumor has it that Ward 9 Alderman Roland Lemar is planning to run for Cam Staple's soon to be vacated State Rep seat, one wonders why Elicker didn't save himself the trouble of moving and make a bid for Roland's seat.

Kevin Donohue and Ray Saracco, the Ward 10 Co-Chairs, have done just what they promised they would do when they ran for office--hold public meetings and try to get the neighborhood involved in Ward 10 politics. This is the fourth or fifth meeting they've held since they were elected a little over a year ago. In all the time Debra Hauser was Ward10 Co-Chair, she didn't hold any Ward Committee meetings. Maybe that's why Ray and Kevin won the Co-Chair positions.

If Kevin and Ray were as biased and as autocratic as Debra Hauser implies, they would make the endorsement decision by themselves, as is their right under the rules. Instead they will have the committee vote, and they will abide by that vote. Score one for democracy.

A vote for Allan is not a vote against the Mayor. Allan and his supporters agree with many, though not all, of the Mayors goals. What we don't like are his take no prisoners, my way or the highway tactics. It's been great having Allan's independent voice representing Ward 10, not to mention his hard work for his constituents, his thoughtful and careful analysis of issues, and his ability to build alliances with his fellow Alders throughout the City.

Roland Lemar's comments are not all that different from comments that Roland and the Mayor's other supporters have been making about Allan since the day Allan was elected. Then they claimed he wouldn't be able to work with the BOA, now they claim he hasn't--although many Alders would beg to differ. This is the usual party line when there's an upset aldermanic victory in a ward. We don't need to take it seriously.

Posted by: anon | June 3, 2009 3:49 PM

Someone wrote: "worked directly with City Plan to ensure that there will be appropriate pedestrian infrastructure across Whitney,"

How do you define appropriate? It seems that the latest plans do not do nearly enough to address the community's desires for improving this road, nor do they contain anywhere near "appropriate" pedestrian infrastructure for a road with such a high volume of pedestrians, high traffic speeds (40MPH is common) and such a poor safety record.

Of course, there's the question about timelines - perhaps the road will be paved one way this summer so that the money can be shoveled out the door, and then (once a few more people are seriously injured) we'll ensure that money is spent to redo it in a few years in an "appropriate" way :)

Not sure what this has to do with either candidate other than the fact that the current Alderman probably hasn't realized how critical this issue is for his ward!

Posted by: ward 10 too! | June 3, 2009 4:48 PM

Ward10oldtimer - Great analysis! I think Kevin and Ray have done a great job here in Ward 10 and that Deb Hauser is just blowin' smoke! I love the idea of Roland running for State Rep. and think he would be amazing in that role (certainly better than "no-show" Staples!) I'm surprised that Lemar is endorsing Elicker in Ward 10 if hat is true as it seems he would want to stay out of contested elections if possible.... and because every time I've asked him about Brison, he has said that Allan is a good man who just hasn't figured out yet how to be an effective aldermen. Doesn't it seem like Allan deserves a second term to grow into that type of alderman? I love Roland (as do alot of us in Ward 10) but think he is wrong to be pushing this hard for Justin. I think Allan has done enough to deserve a second chance.

Posted by: Seriously? | June 3, 2009 5:23 PM

Ward10 Oldtimer:

Roland L. may have couched it because he's nice, but I believe that what he said was that Allan doesn't work at all, not that the doesn't work with the BOA or with the Mayor's office. It's a good point -- it's nice to have someone who's actually willing to do some heavy lifting when it comes to constituent services and policy making. Most alders aren't. And it appears Allan is no exception. Most Ward 10 residents can't name a single significant thing Allan has done to improve local quality of life. Crazy thing is, despite the brevity of his tenure as a Ward 10 resident, Justin actually has done things that have improved local quality of life!

Posted by: Streever | June 3, 2009 5:25 PM

Folks--
really, civility would be a big improvement :) Let's all try to avoid the rumor mongering & labels--especially those under anonymous names. It simply discredits any validity there may be in your point, unless you seek to preach to the choir.

The vast majority of Elicker's supporters were NOT from Ward 9. We live in Ward 10. Regardless, the Ward lines are ridiculous & irrelevant. Living in ward 9, Justin has spent 2 years re-building & working on issues that affect the entire City. He's spent the majority of his time working directly in Ward 10. The fact that his apartment was 2 blocks from the ward line should not be the endless refrain of your chorus.

Posted by: KristinR | June 3, 2009 7:52 PM

OSCAR HOTEl wrote: "On a final note, as a resident of Ward 10, I haven't noticed anything that Mr. Brison has accomplished for the neighborhood. If he has, he hasn't made his constituents aware of his achievements, and certainly did not do it last night."

Ward 10 residents should support the candidate who has shown he can make a difference in the city. Though he has not been a Ward 10 resident long, Mr. Elicker has already shown he is in tune with the issues affecting the neighborhood and has creative plans for addressing them.

Posted by: Steve | June 3, 2009 9:27 PM

Justin Elicker is a breath of fresh air, who is practical, energetic, and can get things done. As a neighbor of Hooker School, Justin stopped by to see how the tree in front of my house had died, and stopped to talk to me about it. He emailed the city officials for me and effectively advocated for cutting down this tree and another dead tree near the school which have dying branches waiting to hit a young K-2 school child. Justin is also lining up re-planting with a new tree this fall by Urban Resources Initiative (URI). Mr. Brison has been non-responsive and has done nothing on this issue. Justin knows me by name, even though he has been here just for a short time, and is an activist, advocating for his constituents before he has even become the alderperson for this ward. After the meeting Mr. Brison came up to me and introduced himself, even though I have spoken to him several times before. He did not know nor could he remember my name and he appeared befuddled and confused. I have not ever seen him once in the two years he has been alderman. He could not answer the question at the meeting what has he done for two years, and it appears to me he has done nothing. Justin has accomplished more in two weeks than Mr. Brison has done in two years. Justin is undoubtedly the more highly qualified person to be our alderperson. As an advocate for Friends of East Rock Park (FERP), Justin has organized community events, taken on projects such as neighborhood surveys, getting stop signs to improve pedestrian and bicyclists' safety on the roads of East Rock Park, improved the content and quality of the issues addressed by FERP and created a network of neighborhood friends who want to work together to improve the quality of life in our ward. Justin's energy will promote public safety and his ideas about block watches and his ability to unite people and communicate effectively, will do more to address the issue of crime, an issue he identified as being a priority to address, than anything Mr. Brison could ever do. In fact, the lack of any idea or proposal by Mr. Brison on the crime issue or any other issue is rather shocking, as is the notion that the Ward Democratic Committee would not effectively endorse, promote and do everything to support Justin Elicker, an intelligent, thoughtful and passionate Democratic nominee for alderperson.

Posted by: strangerthanfiction | June 3, 2009 9:51 PM

I remember that the first time Brison came to my attention was when he proposed that whichever way the Hooker case came out, that both sides agree to accept the verdict. To my amazement that was the first time that all parties agreed on anything! And the new Hooker School is finally being built on Brison's watch with surprisingly little friction for a case that went to the State Supreme Court.

On the elected vs. appointed school board, I have to say that I'm stunned that Justin feels an elected board "would politicize it more"!! Right now the Board of Ed is handpicked and controlled by the Mayor. There's some naivete showing. Could it be any more politicized? A majority of the city's tax dollars goes for Education, but residents have little say over how it's spent and the Mayor controls all the decision makers. I'll always opt for checks and balances. City taxpayers absolutely need some direct representation on school issues and they don't have it now.

I love neighborhood schools and the way they act as the centerpiece of a community. The present system of magnet schools is so confusing and disjointed, I dare anyone to tell me how it even works or how one gets in. What neighborhood schools there are, are highly valued and a source of neighborhood pride and cohesion.

Brison lacks in presentation and has years on Justin for sure. Justin is energetic, young and has already made admirable contributions to the community. But just their answers on the schools' issues shows the difference experience and wisdom can make.

Posted by: FIX THE SCHOOLS | June 3, 2009 10:55 PM

While Brison is correct in implying that individual aldermen have little influence over the education system in New Haven, it is Elicker who seems to understand better the critical issues at stake.

1. Elected BOE vs Appointed BOE. - While both processes CAN get bogged down in politics, an elected BOE ALWAYS gets bogged down in politics. I can't think of a single example of a functioning urban system with an elected BOE. On the contrary, there are some systems, NYC for example, where the mayors are draining their respective political swamps. These swamps are breeding grounds for the kind of politics that produces nothing but cronyism and power grabbing. In these disfuntional systems, educational outcomes aren't even discussed. 7 years after Bloomberg took control from the NYC BOE, NYC is making serious gains. So to in Chicago and DC where strong mayors have stood their ground. Elicker seems to be aware of this which is a good sign.

On magnets - Brison is right. They're not all that.

The only reason why New Haven has so many magnets is because the state awarded a lot more construction money for inter-district magnets than neighborhood schools. Its as simple as that. This was a financial formula which DeStefano used to help fund the massive school construction program.

And if you examine the results of the magnet schools and disaggregate the data for income and race, its difficult to say whether they educate kids any better than any other public school in town. One thing is for sure: While their test scores on average are higher than most neighborhood schools, its because they have a different make-up of student body with at least 25% coming from the burbs. They have not had any discernible positive impact on closing the achievement gap for the poorest kids in New Haven.

The bottom line: It matters not whether your school is traditional or a magnet. It only matters if 75 or 85% of the kids at the school are on the track to go to a 4 year college.

Posted by: Look&Listen | June 4, 2009 2:38 AM

Elicker seems to be a great guy, and an even better candidate. Elicker is a bright young man, ready to make some change in this city for the better. His record in the community says so.
As for Brison... residents don't need an alderman who spends two years trying to "figure out" how to be an effective alderman, they need one who will hit the ground running -- and Elicker seems like he's fit for marathon.

Posted by: robn | June 4, 2009 8:56 AM

WARD10TOO!,

Could you please tell us the source of the "no-show" comment about Cam Staples?

Just curious.

Posted by: Bruce | June 4, 2009 9:16 AM

Roland,

Are you really advocating for a public figure get his job done by working "behind closed doors and out of the public eye."? Really? Where was your press secretary when you wrote that one? I'm going to write that off as an "oopsie" and assume you really didn't mean it.

Perhaps a better approach to getting things done would be to open the caucus to allow Allan to participate.

Posted by: jawbone | June 4, 2009 10:08 AM

Hey Justin, I'd say you owe this person 'Streever' a beer or dinner or something. Sure campaingning hard for you in this forum. Not that there's anything wrong with that...its just that I am getting all my information about Justin's accomplishments from a 'Streever'.
A couple of general observations:
1. Its pretty clear that Justin and Allan have very different personal styles. To my eyes and ears, Justin comes off as an energetic young politician. He seemed ready to debate Allan the other night.
Allan is laconic and takes it as it comes.
Both are obviously genuine and highly intelligent.
2. I don't think this event the other night was billed as a 'debate' and it isn't correct to say that Justin 'won' the debate 'hands down' and Ms. Hauser stated. Perhaps Justin would like to have debated Allan, but Allan clearly did not want to go there.
An actual debate would be VERY interesting. I say that because I think Allan actually has a very deep understanding of most of the ongoing issues in our city. He is perhaps a bit inarticulate about his stance, but I think he knows internally just where he stands on most issues. Justin is clearly learning the issues and if Allan wanted to bring the hurt in a real debate, (which he probably would not) Justin could be playing catch up most of the debate. Allan was able to discuss with semi-clarity his positions on the sale of the transfer station, sale of the sludge incinerator, BOE voted or appointed, and magnet versus neighborhood schools. I didn't come away with the impression that Justin has a deep understanding of these larger issues.
Bottom line, Justin hasn't won my vote...yet.

Posted by: William Kurtz | June 4, 2009 10:42 AM

I think Bruce has a point; it's a little unfair for Democratic aldermen to refuse to work with Mr. Brison and then attack him for not making things happen--just as it's unfair to criticize Mr. Elicker for being some kind of carpetbagger when he moves a couple of blocks.

For the record, I am not a New Haven voter and have no particular interest in this contest beyond being acquainted with both candidates, who are, in my experience, people of high ideals, powerful intellect, and good characters.

Posted by: Roland L. | June 4, 2009 11:11 AM

Hey Bruce, Thanks for the comment, but no "oopsie" here. First, I wasn't referring to the Caucus at all... I happen to agree with Allan that his presence in that room would not influence the outcome of what we discuss one single iota. Personally, I would have no oblection to him being invited to the Caucus. What I was referencing, and what I think I made clear, was that our job goes beyond our public comments... and that public comments and public support/opposition are only marginally important to overall policy conception, development or implementation. While it was greatly appreciated, it made little overall difference that Allan has signed up in support of many issues that I have spent hours/weeks/months working on...what would have mattered much more is if we had more people doing the backgound "grunt work" of policy development or working with city officials on how to implement effectively. Usually, it matters very little when I or any other Alder gives a speech at the last minute in opposition/support of something that has already spent months/years being developed. What matters a great deal is informing the process beyond public statement by helping to bring in qualified individulas to discuss policy, to outline opportunities in advance, to see problems ahead of time and work with our program implementers (city staff) to address any problems or concerns that we/they might have in carrying out a specific policy approach we might legislate.

I'm not, and would never (and don't think it reads even remotely that I was)suggesting that our politics/public role is best served behind closed doors. What I intended to suggest is that we are at our best when we begin our role in advance of the votes being cast and the speech being made. That, in in the end, is where I think Justin will be a dynamic addition to the Board. Again, my thoughts are not meant as an indictment of Allan, whom I think is a smart and wonderful man with whom I often agree- but instead, I'm more excited by the great energy, leadership and approach that Justin will bring to the Board. When the final votes are cast this November in Ward 10, my feelings will matter very little. So I agree with Streever that we should move on to a substantive conversation amongst the residents of Ward 10. I expect this to be a great race where great ideas are generated and good policy is discussed - democracy at its best!

Posted by: Alphonse Credenza | June 4, 2009 11:31 AM

Alderperson? Alderman.

or, if you insist:

personhandle

freshperson

Hugh Jackperson

Posted by: City Hall Watch | June 4, 2009 11:37 AM

Voters should be very skeptical of any alder claiming that he/she has special influence, out of the sight of the media or the public, at City Hall. More often than not, it simply means that person is aligned with the mayor and his administration or that he/she tries to influence a particular city department in which they have a special interest. It rarely enures to the benefits of voters at large and claims otherwise are likely completely fabricated, exaggerated by a false view of self-importance. One of the most significant responsibilities of an alder is the power of spending and taxes. Those that pay none have an even higher calling to be prudent, frugal and demonstrate a deep understanding of the issues our families face. Dismissing any elected BOE members, embracing magnet schools for the rest of the city, but not Hooker, and booking money for a catch basin fall far short.

Posted by: Peace Frog | June 4, 2009 1:42 PM

City Hall Watch, I'm gonna call you out on that. Please explain in detail how Justin Elicker (I presume that you are referring to him) does not pay taxes to the city. Where does this belief come from?

Additionally, I think the point is that, while Justin has had no chance to vote on the budget, he HAS been able to accomplish a number of things important to the neighborhood. Is this not so?

Posted by: Bruce | June 4, 2009 2:58 PM

Roland,

I don't think we are in disagreement about the importance of getting your hands dirty. I just think you could have chosen your words more carefully. Working "behind the scenes" is something that people can appreciate. Working "behind closed doors" is something that typically generates suspicion.

Posted by: JOSIAHBROWNFOR MAYOR | June 4, 2009 3:34 PM

PEACE FROG,

Justin doesnt pay city taxes and that is a fact he has confirmed- he rents and does not own a motor vehicle.

PS It is a little early to compare our current education reform with either NYC or DC. In New York the first move Bloomberg made was to dismiss the long tenured and by many accounts ineffectual schools Chancellor Harold Levy.

Posted by: Annoyed | June 4, 2009 4:39 PM

Streever, please stop telling people how to act/write. You make very good points and I agree with you most of the time but let people write what they want, it's a free country!

Posted by: William Kurtz | June 4, 2009 5:11 PM

A city resident who does not own a home or a car but rents an apartment pays city taxes indirectly. Surplus of rental property + dearth of renters = vacant properties + bankrupt property owners + defaulted city taxes. Just ask Detroit. There's also generally a relationship with property taxes and monthly rents; as the taxes rise, so do the rents.

Why hold back? Let's return to the good old days when only white, landowning men could hold public offices.

Posted by: anon | June 4, 2009 5:25 PM

"Justin doesnt pay city taxes and that is a fact he has confirmed- he rents"

Isn't that a contradiction? Renters pay city taxes indirectly.

Posted by: facchek | June 4, 2009 8:22 PM

This debate about electing a appointed board is moot. The (FAC) is the charter is set in stone... ..we have an appointed board until the charter is changed.
This provision in the charter has existed for too many years now. Hooker, for years has been a quasi- magnet school, seeking kids from other neighborhoods for diversity. So what's the debate about? That point is moot as well.

Elicker, a water boy in waiting, supports the Mayor and the mayoral appointed board.

In his statement above he fails to criticize the Mayor,and his appointed board ever as he well knows, the education system clearly has failed students during the fourteen years under the Mayor's watch.

Lemar, a graduate of the mayor's kool-aid brigade, supports both the appointed board and Elicker, Elicker, most assuredly will be elbowed out by Lemar in his bid to be the head H2O, behind Goldfield.

Folks,
You just don't get it. The key to being an Alderman is reflected in this statement made by Brison..

"Brison spoke about the role of an alderman as a "check to the power of the executive branch".

Right, check and balance, remember that concept from your civics class, it's one of the cornerstones of our constitutional government.

We currently have 21 of 30 Aldermen pushing and shoving to be head H2O behind Goldfield, you don't need another.

You have eight (8) alder persons on the BOA who cannot even vote on a BOE resolution, because they are "tied in".

You do not need another...!

Posted by: JOSIAHBROWNFORMAYOR | June 4, 2009 8:30 PM

I am not suggesting because Justin is a renter he is unfit for office. I actually think we will be lucky to have either Justin or Allan as our Alderman; however, it sounds to me like there is a major divide in what these two candidates think about ed reform, hence the title of this article. And, Allan is in the right.

Justin cited the fact that NYC dismantled its BOE in favor of mayoral control (this policy is currently up for renewal). Of course, Bloomberg did this because the system that had been in place was inefficient; here in New Haven we have a school board that is controlled by the mayor and it is inefficient.

Posted by: robn | June 4, 2009 10:29 PM

I'm still scratching my head about why reasonably intelligent people like Justin and Alan (and Roland) would want to hold this office which has minimal compensation, much responsibility, and judging by some of the caustic remarks in the forum, is a relatively thankless job. Well thank you gents....now please have a real, formal debate. Maybe NHI readers could submit and vote on questions for a debate moderated by Mr.Bass???

Posted by: Sally Joughin | June 4, 2009 10:50 PM

I think Allan Brison is doing a fine job as ward 10 alderman, and therefore he should be given a second term. I see no reason why residents should vote a good alderman out simply because there is another hardworking enthusiastic individual who wants the position. There are many individuals who contribute to our community and could do the job of alderman, but why replace Brison with someone else?

While Allan has a very informative brochure, I was disappointed at the "meet & greet" event that he did not tell enough about his legislative accomplishments on the Board, the specific constituent services he has rendered, and more specifics about future goals. He is too modest--I guess you could say, not the typical politician! You will find out a lot when you speak to him one-on-one or read his interesting newsletters on email (Be sure to get on his list by emailing him at allan.brison@gmail.com). Allan mentioned his work on legislation regarding "double dipping" by city retirees, his work to control electric rates, and the reasons for his opposition to selling off the Transfer Station. But I wish he had also told everyone that he co-sponsored Complete Streets legislation friendly to pedestrians and bicycles; played a major role in requiring the city to use "green" cleaning agents; was a member of a Blue ribbon Budget Review Panel that will make the budget process more transparent to New Haven residents. Affecting specifically ward 10, Allan got us improved traffic lights at Ferry & State, introduced and passed a resolution for a sound barrier in Cedar Hill next to I-91, helped residents of Cottage Street get a parking restriction removed, worked to resolve conflicts between Hooker School and neighbors at the construction site, and helped residents with all kinds of day-to-day problems in the neighborhoods, such as safety, trash, street lights, abandoned cars and potholes. It is hard to document all the hours, committee meetings, community meetings, telephone calls, and thinking that aldermen like Allan devote to this job. In the next term, Allan wants to work on a number of issues: community policing, more control of Bd. of Ed. policy and spending by Bd. of Aldermen, relationship between route 34 development and community concerns, and establishment of a Cedar Hill Youth Center.

It is my impression that some people who responded to this article don't really understand the job of alderman, haven't bothered to get to know Allan or find out what he has supported and promoted, and don't know what is needed in the ward or the city.

Posted by: Another Perspective | June 5, 2009 8:11 AM

Sally,

While your comments are well thought I will have to disagree with you. I found Allen's performance indicative of his term as Alderman. While he is a very friendly, nice man I feel he didn't speak of accomplishments because he doesn't have any. What was listed in his brochure and the things you listed were accomplished because of the hard work of others (outside of the I-91 noise barrier ordinance which I could go on for a page about the insignificance and poor timing of that measure). Attending many management team meetings, board meetings and community events I have found that Allen sticks to prepared written remarks and does not do well when asked a direct question or asked to elaborate. This may be a sign of age, or as I interpret it, a lack of understanding.

Nothing can more illustrate this point than his comments on the Board of Education. The way the Board of Education is constituted is defined by the charter. Allen should know this - by asserting that this should be changed without acknowledging the challenge that this would be is disingenuous.

I agree with Justin about the appointed board of ed but for different reason. Take a look at the quality of individuals on the Board of Education - http://www.nhps.net/admin/members_board.asp - if you think that you would get that level of expertise and knowledge on an elected board of education think again. While there may be problems with attendance remember this is a volunteer position - before you begin tossing stones look at the elected board of aldermen, the state legislature or even the united states congress - unless there is an important agenda item sometimes other commitments take priority. Its an awful truth and the reason I agree with Bruce - we should have both elected and appointed members as those who are committed enough to run for the 2 or 3 city wide seats will hold others accountable for attendance. When the charter is reformed to accomplish this I nominate Josiah Brown (although I hope that he is appointed to the next vacancy). I'm sure your all sick of reading my comments so I'll stop for now... although I could go on and on.

Posted by: City Hall Watch | June 5, 2009 8:59 AM

Re: Payment of taxes

If you don't own a car and you don't own a house but you rent, the fractional component of your rent payment that goes to taxes is not broken out in your residential lease and even it was, it makes up such small portion of monthly rent payment not the city, but to your landlord as to be inconsequential. Renters do not feel the pain of escrowing for taxes or for writing the check every six months and watching that amount double in five short years. Alders who don't directly pay taxes for cars or property do not appreciate the pain they cause when as part of the bucket brigade, they raise taxes year after year as the mayor dictates.

As for whether Justin pays taxes - ask him how much he pays.

Posted by: jawbone | June 5, 2009 9:23 AM

A thought I had last night...isn't it a bit unseemly that Mr. Lamar is going way beyond simply endorsing Elicker for Alderman? Is it common for one ward's currently elected Alderman to actively campaign for an opponent the neighboring ward's contest?

RobN, your debate idea is a good one. As I mentioned earlier, Tuesday night's 'meet and greet' was not a debate.
The answer to your rhetorical question lies in a desire for power and control within the east rock neighborhood. Albeit at the service of positive and progressive policy, (which I support.)
Talk about checks and balances...I personally think that Allan's checks and Roland's balances work pretty well within the microcosm that is ward 9 and ward 10.

Posted by: Interesting | June 5, 2009 10:24 AM

To Jawbone: I think you raise an interesting point... Why is Lemar going full bore for Justin? I love Roland (as do a lot of people in East Rock, whether they live in Ward 8, 9 or 10), but Lamar has always seemed overly fond of Elicker's rise in New Haven politics.... mostly I think because he sees a lot of himself in Elicker, but I'm not sure. Allan seems like a nice guy. I work closely with a few City Hall bigwigs, and they both say that in the case of Ben Berkowitz and Justin Elicker, Roland has pulled more strings than a seamstress.... that Roland essentially forced officials to do what East Rock Park wanted and what the Upper State Street merchants want. Does this mean that Roland is trying to get Berkowitz to run in Ward 8? Is he just trying to get he and his friends complete control over all of East Rock. He has done great things for us who live in the Ward 8 section of East Rock, but I like the idea of some older members of our community in elected service.

Posted by: Dead on | June 5, 2009 10:33 AM

Jawbone,

You are right that it is somewhat unprecedented that an Alder would work this hard for a neighboring challenger to an incumbant. Its not unseemly, I don't think, to support good people whom you think would be great for this neighborhood, but I think it is more than that. I know Elicker lived in Ward 9 before moving to Ward 10.... I know Lemar was frustrated with Allan's approach and thinks Allan gives the "green" movemement a bad name, but campaigning this hard for someone that you essentially agree with all the time, as Roland admitted himself, seems personal. Again, like many others above, I think Roland would an exceptional Mayor or State Rep and will always support him, but I don't think he needs to be trying to get Justin elected.

Posted by: Bruce | June 5, 2009 10:35 AM

FACCHECK: New Haven's charter comes up for revision every ten years and I believe the next round is in only a couple years away. Leading up to that event, the board of aldermen forms a commission that generates a list of changes to be presented to the public for vote. That said, I think the candidates' discussions of charter-related issues is relevant as they need to start building support now in order for the commission to consider them.

Last time the commission lumped all of the changes into one ballot question which was voted down. Perhaps the new commission will not make this mistake.

Posted by: A decent proposal | June 5, 2009 10:51 AM

Seems like most people are happy with both Allan and Roland and it seems like Roland is covering for Allan in ensuring that stuff gets done in Ward 10 when Allan can't get it done himself because the administration is playing "hardball" with him. Seeing as we all seem to like Allan and Roland, can't they just get along and find something else for Justin to do? Maybe he can be the East Rock representative to the Civilian Review Board?

Posted by: No way | June 5, 2009 10:59 AM

Jawbone - I just reread both of Lemar's posts - I can't say I see anything unseemly or wrong with the way he addresses the issue. Lemar stays positive, doesn't attack Allan, just states why Justin would be great and then moves on. Hardly looks like he is doing much more than letting his supporters in Ward 10 know that they should look at supporting Justin...and given the comments above, it seems that at least a few people in this ward find his views and endorsement valuable. (Debra Hauser, on the other hand, comes across as political hack, but she is a former ward chair in Ward 10, so she has more political clout).

Posted by: Edwards Street | June 5, 2009 11:19 AM

I have no problem with a Lemar/Elicker tandem for East Rock and I'm pretty sure that would give us the best team in town. I am a little uncomfortable with DeStefano's role in Justin's race and it makes me feel a little less confident in his value for this neighborhood, but Roland makes a strong case for Justin that I happen to agree with. I'll be voting for Justin

Posted by: aharpe | June 5, 2009 12:40 PM

new to this, but it seems to me (re schools) that Norton street points out the blindingly obvious, but no-one else wants to go there. As a parent of kids at Hooker school, of course in one (selfish) sense I am glad to have them in a 'comfortable' environment surrounded by other middle class/educated children, but more than that I find it desperately sad that their school is so elite, and in no way represents this diverse city. Having my kids go to a neighborhood school is important to me, I would hate to have to drive them (or have them go on a bus, I would not want to lose my regular connection with the school at drop off and pick up) but I wish that neighborhood were a more diverse one.

Posted by: David Cameron | June 5, 2009 12:54 PM

Congratulations to the Ward 10 Democratic co-chairs for organizing the meeting to hear from the alder candidates, including a non-Democrat.

On the question of an elected Board of Ed, Allan Brison is absolutely right. New Haven badly needs a Board of Ed that is at least partially if not entirely elected. The Board of Ed is insulated from the public in several ways. First, it is entirely appointed by the mayor, who also sits on it. Only two other municipalities in the state have boards of education that are wholly appointed by the mayor. Second, the city's Charter limits the Board of Aldermen, in setting the annual budget for the Board of Ed, to approving or amending only its overall amount of spending - this year about $173 million. The alders are not allowed to make any changes within the budget.

The results of having a Board of Education that is unelected and unaccountable to the public are entirely predictable: 1) The Board is attentive to the preferences of the mayor. It is not attentive to, and generally dismissive of, the preferences of parents, taxpayers and residents; 2) The salary schedule, especially for school administrators, has become grossly inflated and is now way out of line with that of other departments in the city. For example, next year 128 school administrators will make over $100K a year; in comparison, in the more than two-dozen other departments in the city, including the mayor's office, only 17 officials will make more than $100K. 3) The schools underperform. They are run with short school days and do not deliver the levels of achievement - for example, on the statewide CMAS tests - they should be delivering; compare the performance on those tests of students in the city's schools with the performance of students in Achievement First's Amistad schools. 4) Over the past decade, the Board has spent $1.5 billion renovating existing schools and building new ones, thereby incurring for the city roughly $300 million in debt. The school construction program was predicated on projected enrollments that were exaggerated. Now, it turns out, the city is selling off schools. Last week, it sold the recently-renovated Dwight School in order to balance the current-year budget and pay off some of the huge amount of debt it has accumulated. At least one school and possibly more will be sold next year to balance next year's budget.

Allan Brison is right; the city badly needs an elected Board of Ed. Hopefully, those who care about education in Ward 10 will come out in force and testify before the next Charter Revision Commission in support of changes to make the Board of Ed accountable to both the Board of Aldermen and the residents of New Haven.

Posted by: Tom | June 5, 2009 2:20 PM

City Hall Watch,

Your comment regarding taxes is ridiculous. Renters pay property tax, plain and simple. When taxes go up, rents follow. A landlord like any other businessperson offering goods or services must ultimately pass the costs on to the customer, in this case the renter.

You're clearly some elitist who thinks that people's opinions or beliefs aren't valid if they don't own a house. What's worse, you don't have the courage to take responsibility for your obnoxious comments and opt instead to hide in relative anonymity. Last time I checked, the requirement of land ownership in order to vote or run for office was scrapped in the 1800's.

Posted by: jawbone | June 5, 2009 2:52 PM

Tom,
I am a landlord. I own a three family house, which I rent out. I take the total city property taxes and divide by three. Each of the individual units pay pretty close to one-third of the total tax bill. Yes, renters pay taxes indirectly, but very, very few renters are subsidising a total tax bill for the property they happen to live in. I think that is the point that a few people are trying to make.
Further than that, if I have good tenants, I do not necessarily raise their rent just because my taxes go up. Keeping a good tenant is worth far more than covering my property taxes totally.
So, what I am saying is that this particular issue is more nuanced than it seems.
I'll tell you what, though. Seeing that total tax bill every year and seeing that money fly out the door to pay for substandard city services is a truely painful experience. Just ask any homeowner.

As far as cars go. My hats off to anyone who can live with out a car. I'm jealous I can't do that myself.

Posted by: bravecat00 | June 5, 2009 4:37 PM

JOSIAHBROWNFOR MAYOR,

You should rethink you're comments about Justin not paying city taxes. Landowners usually incorporate property taxes into their rents; so he does pay taxes! He also pays state taxes through sales and income taxes. These funds then can be returned to the city in terms grants, etc. So he does give back.
From his presentation he also showed that he devotes his time to the community with Friends of East Rock Park, which brings the community together.

Posted by: robn | June 5, 2009 5:03 PM

JAWBONE is exactly right...

Taxes are embedded in rent, but in well kept neighborhoods like East Rock, the rent a landlord can charge for a well maintained house does not cover the tax bill. Thats why absentee slumlords own property in poorly kept neighborhoods...they take cheaper rents but they put zero dollars into improvements and pocket the difference....their houses deteriorate, declining that neighborhood's value even further, depressing their taxes and raising the taxes in well kept neighborhoods.

Its a vicious cycle and unfortunately, agencies like LCI don't have enough manpower or legal teeth to really force absentee landlords to keep up their properties.

This describes one very punitive aspect of urban taxation....those with good intentions are inadvertently punished for their property upkeep because of dramatic imbalance in property maintenance.

Posted by: John McKenna | June 5, 2009 10:25 PM

A Yale Forestry degree with 2 years living in the city, and he's commited to staying in New Haven?! What are you going to do with that degree in New Haven? Looks like another Yale Grad Student looking to pump up his resume before leaving for greener pastures, we've all seen that one before.

Both Streever and Lemar were hand picked and anointed by King John. No surprise they are endorsing another DeStefano toady. King John is worried that the balance of power is tilting away from him in the BOA. He sent Elicker to keep the majority of alders under his control.

I can not wait, until these young, ambitious and nieve gentleman get the Johnny Treatment when he tires of them, or they try to cross him.

Careful you bright eyed lads, you're sleeping with the devil.

Posted by: Streever | June 5, 2009 10:36 PM

Annoyed:
I'm asking that people with anonymous names not spread rumors. I'm sorry if that annoys you. Honestly, it's hard to imagine you have anything productive to add if you can't use a. facts or b. your own identity, isn't it?

Interesting:
"pulls strings"--you mean campaigns to let these two young, hard-working, energetic volunteers get things done?
Lemar would be the stupidest man in politics if he DIDN'T fully support energetic, hard-working people who charge nothing, earn nothing, & fully donate their services. The grumbling you hear is sour grapes.

I'm sorry, but if I were an alderman, and I had 2 people working so hard and taking nothing in return, I would do exactly the same as Lemar, because I'm no dummy.

Jawbone:
I'm not here campaigning for Justin. I believe in him & think it's important that accurate information be here. The meeting did not focus on schools, & I see no mention of the huge number of his supporters, and as such I feel compelled to point this out. I've worked with Elicker on a number of issues & found him to be extremely responsive, quick, & dedicated. It is only natural I would support him.

Posted by: strangerthanfiction | June 6, 2009 3:35 PM

I wholeheartedly agree with both Cameron and Brison -- New Haven desperately needs at least a partially elected school board. There is no accountability to parents and taxpayers right now.
School administrators salaries are run amok, and this unchallenged Mayor's political agenda totally dominates the operation of the school system. The sooner New Haven gets this structural change done the better. It will mean more reasonable salaries for the honchos at 54 Meadow and a less confusing, more effective school system. Always be wary of the folks who say that we will be worse off if the people have a voice, that means they will be worse off. There's no substitute for checks and balances, and don't believe anyone who says otherwise.

Posted by: FIX THE SCHOOLS | June 6, 2009 6:42 PM

Strangerthanfiction,

If there is no substitute for checks and balances re: public education policy, then why have NYC results risen dramatically ever since Bloomberg took control and dismantled the politcal rats nest that was the old NY BOE?

In a city with only 20% voter turn-out on election day like New Haven, if you had an elected school board, the likely winners would be candidates put up by well-organized special interest groups, most notably the teachers union.

For ten years school policy under DeStefano has been focused on bricks and mortar and marketing. But not once did I think that the solution was to have an elected school board. (A new mayor maybe, but not an elected BOE)

Thankfully we are seeing an about face from hizzoner. I for one am becoming a true believer in the NEW JD on education policy.

If you agree that the goal of NHPS should be to deliver 85 to 90% of children to a 4-year college, and in so doing close the achievement gap in New Haven, then the LAST thing you want is to give more power to the same folks who brought you 30 years of mis-education due to union and patronage influence.

Posted by: strangerthanfiction | June 6, 2009 11:05 PM

Fix the schools - I'm encouraged by the roll-out of the mayor's new proposals for the school system. I do think that New Haven will eventually have a first class public school system to match its great schools of higher education. However,no reform should be dependent on one person. Government should be responsive and accountable to the people who pay for it and are serviced by it.
As Cameron says: "
"next year 128 school administrators will make over $100K a year; in comparison, in the more than two-dozen other departments in the city... only 17 officials will make more than $100K." Taxpayers wouldn't stand for that if they got the right to vote on educ. officials. When the Education budget is strapped, they never look at those huge salaries, instead they lop off front-line classroom personnel that get paid peanuts - parents wouldn't stand for that. Yes there are visionary, strong mayors who do good things with the tremendous, unchecked power they are given. But at best it's a crapshoot. It's a big part of the city budget and hugely important - residents should have some say in how things are done, don't you think? I think democracy is a good thing. I believe that people can be trusted to make the right choices for themselves and their families.

Posted by: robn | June 7, 2009 9:20 AM

FIX is right...

An elected board would be a disaster manned by unprepared amateurs. We have a way to hold the mayoral run board accountable and thats called a mayoral election.

Posted by: Anon | June 7, 2009 11:50 AM

How can Ward10 Oldtimer say this? "If Kevin and Ray were as biased and as autocratic as Debra Hauser implies, they would make the endorsement decision by themselves, as is their right under the rules. Instead they will have the committee vote, and they will abide by that vote. Score one for democracy."

When the Rules say this? "The Candidate for Alderman from each Ward shall be endorsed by a convention of delegates in each Ward within the time provided by state statutes. The delegates to each such convention shall be the members of the Ward Committee. The person with a majority of those present and voting at said convention shall be the endorsed aldermanic candidate from that Ward."

New Haven Democratic Town Committee Bylaws, Article III, Section 4 (1977)

The link to the Town Committee Bylaws is here.

And here are the State Democratic Committee Rules.