In D.C., Two Latino Views On Sotomayor

by Melissa Bailey | July 15, 2009 4:55 PM | | Comments (14)

benvargas3.pngWashington, D.C. — To Ben Vargas, Sonia Sotomayor represents the roadblocks set before one Latino firefighter’s advancement. To two prominent local Latinas who showed up at the U.S. Senate Wednesday, Sotomayor’s story sounds like their own — a Puerto Rican woman breaking barriers.

Both takes on history were on display during day three of Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on whether Sotomayor should be confirmed as the U.S. Supreme Court’s first Hispanic justice.

Vargas, a New Haven fire lieutenant (pictured), showed up at the committee hearing room Wednesday flanked by 10 white city firefighters, all plaintiffs in the Ricci v. DeStefano case.

Vargas and named plaintiff Frank Ricci are set to testify Thursday against the nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor.

That led two Latina leaders from back home, who were also at the Senate hearings, to criticize Vargas for allegedly advancing himself at the expense of his community at a proud historic moment.

Vargas and 19 other New Haven firefighters convinced the Supreme Court last month — but not Sonia Sotomayor, serving on an earlier appeals panel — that the city shouldn’t have ignored the results of promotional exams just because no African-Americans scored well enough.

In the hall outside the hearing room Wednesday, Vargas came across Norma Rodriguez-Reyes, the publisher of La Voz Hispana weekly newspaper. Both are New Haveners of Puerto Rican descent. They have different personal takes on what kind of history is being made.

IMG_4315.jpgAs he left the hearing room, Vargas found himself beset with Spanish-language reporters inquiring why he’s speaking out against Sotomayor’s nomination.

“We’re here for all firefighters and all police throughout the entire United States,” replied Vargas. “We’re giving promotion or jobs to those who deserve them.”

He and fellow members of the New Haven 20 declined further comment until Thursday. He and Ricci are two of 14 witnesses chosen by Republicans to testify on a panel Thursday against Sotomayor.

As Vargas stood at the center of a media horde, Rodriguez-Reyes suggested a question to nearby reporters: “Is he the product of affirmative action?”

Vargas was whisked away before the question was raised.

IMG_4327.JPGRodriguez-Reyes (pictured), who attended the hearings as a guest of Connecticut U.S. Sen. Chris Dodd, expanded on her feelings.

“It surprises me that he would take this public stand against Judge Sotomayor,” said Rodriguez-Reyes, who’s also vice-chair of New Haven’s Democratic Town Committee (and chairwoman of the board of the Online Journalism Project).

“To come and testify against her being nominated is really damaging to all of the people who have their hopes” lifted by the judge’s nomination. Sotomayor’s story — a Puerto Rican-American woman raised by a single mom in Bronx public housing — is about the American dream, said Rodriguez-Reyes. She’s an example that “you can achieve anything.”

She said Vargas’ actions have “gone against” the “entire Hispanic community.”

The Hispanic and African-American communities are “extremely disappointed in him taking a stand, especially when he was a product of affirmative action.”

Vargas, she noted, was among a group of 10 Hispanic firefighters who joined the New Haven department at the same time, a breakthrough for an underrepresented minority group. Leaders in the city’s Hispanic community at the time urged for the recruits to be hired, she said.

She said she is “flabbergasted” that Lt. Vargas didn’t stay at home out of respect to his fellow Hispanics. “I can’t believe that Benji Vargas would do something like that.”

Vargas and Ricci weren’t taking any more press questions Wednesday. Vargas spoke in this recent New York Times interview about the racial dynamics in the department and how he felt that race-based policies and lawsuits held back his career.

Asked Wednesday about Rodriguez-Reyes’ comment, New Haven fire union President Pat Egan recalled joining the department in the same class with Vargas.

“I know that in 1993 there was a test for entry-level firefighter. Benny took it. I took it. Everybody who got hired took it,” Egan said. “There was a list promulgated of who passed. People were hired off it. To whatever degree there was [political] dialogue about people being hired, I’m not aware of. I know we both took an entry-level test along with the other 38 or 40 individuals who ended up getting hired.”

At the Senate Wednesday, Rodriguez-Reyes said she recognizes that firefighters put their lives on the line every day. “But to me, this has to do with the entire country,” especially minorities and women, “being proud” of the historic candidacy of a “fair and just” judge, she said.

IMG_4386.jpgDuring the hearing, Rodriguez-Reyes sat next to another Latina leader from Connecticut, Yvette Melendez (pictured). Another guest of Sen. Dodd, Melendez recently retired from her post as the former chief of staff of the Connecticut state university system. Her career has been devoted to issues of equity and access: She headed Connecticut’s affirmative action efforts in the mid-1970s, sat on a school desegregation task force, and guided charter school reform.

As a Puerto Rican woman from a working-class family in New York City, Melendez shares much with the judge on a personal level, she said. Like Rodriguez-Reyes, Melendez was the first one in her extended family to go to college.

“So much of what the judge says resonates with me,” she said. She was visibly glowing not just from the blazing TV lights in the hearing room, but from a professed sense of pride in the nominee.

She noted that Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito escaped criticism during his own hearings for having said that his own Italian heritage would lend him empathy on the bench. (Alito’s quote: “When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.”) So, Melendez argued, it’s hypocritical for senators to criticize Sotomayor now for her similar comment about being a “wise Latina.” (In that now-famous comment, Sotomayor said she hoped a “”wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”)

She called “unfortunate” Lt. Vargas’s choice to oppose Sotomayor’s nomination.

“I’m sure his interest is in the advancement of his own career,” she said, “but you have to put it in the context” of a larger community.

His case “has the potential for damaging the opportunities and the hopes and desires of the Latino community,” she said.


Past stories on fire department promotions and the Ricci case:

Sotomayor: I Didn’t “Hide” Ricci Case
Is Ricci Being Smeared?
Sotomayor Speaks On Ricci
Ricci Takes Center Stage
Watley: I’d Have Promoted Ricci
Firebirds, NAACP: Ricci Won’t Stop Us
“If You Work Hard You Can Succeed In America”
Was He The Culprit?
Supreme Court Overturns City On Ricci
On Page 25, A Hint
Minority Firefighters Vow Post-Ricci Unity
Ricci Ruling Won’t End Quest
Ricci, Sotomayor Brand DeStefano
Firefighter Case Reveals Surprise Obama Stand
Justices Zero In On Race-Based Distinctions
Rights Groups Back Black Firefighters
The Supreme Stakes: Title VII’s Future
Dobbs v. Bolden
Latino Group Backs White Firefighters
Black Firefighters: Ricci Case Poses Grave Threat
NAACP Backs City In Firefighter Case
Paging Justice Kennedy
Fire Inspectors Promoted
Fire Inspector List Approved
U.S. Supreme Court To Hear Firefighters’ Case
Fire Promotions Examined in Supreme Court







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Posted by: Sharon Bass | July 15, 2009 5:21 PM

Great story, Melissa. I look forward to Part 4 tomorrow.

Posted by: robn | July 15, 2009 9:33 PM

Interesting quote from Alito...any two-faced right wingers want to comment on that one?...or maybe just shut up?

Posted by: Confused [TypeKey Profile Page] | July 16, 2009 9:10 AM

Ms. Rodriguez-Reyes states "she is "flabbergasted" that Lt. Vargas didn't stay at home out of respect to his fellow Hispanics." Where were these "fellow Hispanics" when HE needed someone to stand behind him after he was attacked in the bathroom at Humphrey's (an attack that is believed to have been orchestrated by a fellow ff)? They turned their backs to him, but now he should fall in line with them?

It's sad that Ms. Rodriguez-Reyes is riding on FF Vargas coat-tails to get her 5 mintues of fame, while trying to smear him, rather than being proud that someone in her own community is standing up for what he believes it, and worked hard to score well on a promotional exam, rather than expecting to get a promotion based on his ethnicity.

I'm proud of Benny and I think he is a terrific role model, not just for the Hispanic community, but for all Americans.

Posted by: Maria Garriga | July 16, 2009 10:16 AM

It's interesting that Ben Vargas gets trotted out all the time for this firefighter story -- it's as if he is the token minority.


Furthermore, Norma wasn't attempting to smear Vargas, she was raising legitimate questions that deserve answers.

I'd be interested to know more.

Posted by: The Count | July 16, 2009 11:39 AM

So, a "wise Latina woman" can be a United States Supreme Court justice, but a smart Hispanic man who passes his firefighter exam has to fight all the way to the same Supreme Court to have his test results validated?

Posted by: Confused [TypeKey Profile Page] | July 16, 2009 2:10 PM

Maria, you don't think what she had to say about him was disrespectful and in no way in an attempt to smear him? I disagree. I think using statements such as his actions have gone against his entire Hispanic community, and saying he should have stayed home out of respect for his community are to smear him and what he stands for. Where was this Hispanic community for him when he needed someone to back him? But now he should do as they say, even if they haven't supported him in the last 5 years?!

And "The Count" ~ I couldn't have said it any better.

Posted by: Jack | July 17, 2009 6:22 AM

So a guy who prepares for a civil service exam is some kind race-traitor? Really? Ben Vargas is a hero who points the way forward for us all,Black,White,Brown,Yellow,and Blue.

Posted by: clem | July 17, 2009 12:32 PM

wow norma reyes member of the democractic party in new haven,,,,stick with the politcs you are good for that...as long as you get what you and the party want.....you could have supported the fireman (vargas)...maybe not all latino's feel the way you do....if they past a test and didn't get the job....would you stick up fot them or the mayor..

Posted by: citizen | July 17, 2009 2:37 PM

THAT IS NORMA ALL THE WAY. SHE IS WHAT SHE IS NEEDS TO BE GENTLE NOT MEAN AND SHOULD OF NEVER SAID HE STAY HOME HE DID GREAT I AM PROUD OF HIM

Posted by: citizen | July 17, 2009 2:39 PM

YOU GO CLEM YOU SAID WHAT I DID NOT LOL

Posted by: really | July 17, 2009 6:25 PM

INDEPENDANT PLEASE POST YOU GUYS EDIT OR JUST DONT POST ALL COMMENTS..........................................
IVE KNOWN NORMA ALL MY LIFE,I COULD TELL YOU OF ALL THE COMMUNITY WORK SHE AND HER FAMILY HAVE DONE.FROM HELPING PEOPLE IN NEED OF A JOB(VARGAS).TO HELPING LESS FURTUNATE FAMILIES IN NEW HAVEN GET FOOD,OIL ASSISTANCE,OR JUST INFORMING THE COMMUNITY OF THEIR RIGHTS.....BENNY HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING THAT DID NOT BENEFIT BEN.YOU GUY CALL HIM A HERO .I CALL HIM SELFISH.AS FOR EARNIG HIS CAPTAIN BADGE I GIVE HIM CREDIT,HOWEVER HE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THAT OPORTUNITY IF THE POLITICOS OF NH .NEVER PUT ON TWO SQUADS THAT MADE ROOM FOR 3 CAPTAINS AND 3 LTS.WHEN HE WAS WAITING TO BE MADE LT.BECOUSE HE WAS THE SECOND TO LAST GUY ON THE LIST.THE BOTTOM 24 GUYS WHITE,BLACK OR LATINO FAILED THAT TEST INCLUDING VARGAS.WHEN NORMA SPEAKS OF LOYALTY SHE STALKING ABOUT NOT KNOCKING THE PROCESS THAT MADE YOU.BECOUSE WITHOUT THOSE TWO SQUADS YOU WOULD NOT HAVE CHANCE TO TAKE THE CAPT TEST

Posted by: Jaime K | July 17, 2009 9:18 PM

Benny you made all Fire Fighters proud. Where were these unwise Latina women when Ben Vargas, Lou Rivera and Felipe Cordero could of made New Haven history being promoted to Captain. Where were you outspoken females when future felon Ron Morales made the token comment. Maybe You should think of building a foundation instead of a glass house. Benny continue to be proud of who you are and stay away from these shallow New Haven opportunists.

Posted by: blue dog dem | July 19, 2009 9:39 AM

The difference between Alito's comment and Sotomayor's is that in no way did he refer to the fact that, although he and his family were discriminated against, it did not make his decision-making process better than anyone elses. So to make it very simple to understand, while it may influence his thought process, it does not make his decision-making better than anyone elses.

Just because Alito's comment is similar in nature to Sotomayor's does not make it the same. Any confusion by liberals to these statements is either willfull (to suit their needs) or misinformed (by taking the particular comments out of context).

I think that Vargas' actions were more important than Ricci's, and that everyone should be proud of him. While all the plaintiffs in the suit were unjustly treated, Vargas had to go against friends and stand alone in his fight. He definitely is a role model for any child to follow.

Posted by: REALLY | July 19, 2009 10:35 PM

YEAH BENNY...LIKE JAIME K STATED STAY AWAY....REAL FAR AWAY....I GUESS AFTER 14 YEARS IN THE DEPT YOU FINNALY MADE IT .WHITE GUYS LOVE YOU AND IT ONLY TOOK SELLING OUT AND TURNING AGAINST OUR (THURGOOD MARSHALL).....WAY TO GO BEN...YOUR A HERO.

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