A Taxing Situation
by Steve Kalb | August 24, 2009 10:26 AM | Permalink | Comments (6)
With no new discussions in sight, Connecticut remains one of the two states that been unable to fashion a tax and spending package for the coming year.
For a state as wealthy as Connecticut it should be beyond embarrassing for everyone. The governor, the legislature and all of us.
Democrats claim they have cut the budget and argue the budget could be adopted tomorrow if Republicans would agree to taxing the wealthy in Connecticut an additional $20 a week. They call the Governor’s budget cuts “heartless” and “draconian.”
To balance her budget, the governor has proposed to close six courthouses, cut funding for public libraries, job training programs, nonprofit agencies that perform state services, reduce funding for non-emergency dental care for the elderly, services for emotionally disabled and blind children and magnet schools. She also wants to cut state spending for state cultural institutions and wipe out the subsidy for the Life Star Emergency helicopter.
Not enough? Add proposed cuts for nursing homes and the High Meadows treatment hospital which the state calls, “residential treatment facility for male adolescents age 12-20 with significant emotional and behavioral problems.”
The Governor’s argument (if I understand her correctly) is that during a recession we all have to live within our means and “tighten our belts.” She repeatedly says the state has to make the same type of decisions that “every family in Connecticut is making right now” and raising taxes on the wealthy during the recession would make matters worse.
And she and others have said if we raise taxes then the wealthy will just move to lower tax states.
Assuming someone isn’t so wealthy they are no longer working, where would these folks move? New York? Doubt it, the income tax there is just under 2 percent higher than Connecticut.
New Jersey? Even worse. 1.4 to 4 percent (depending on income) higher than Connecticut.
Well there is always Vermont right? Not really. Make over $164 thousand and your income tax rate is 9 percent, over $357 thousand and it is 9.5 percent. Even West Virginia has a 6.5 percent income tax rate.
But there is Pennsylvania. The income tax rate there is just a hair over 3 percent.
But I lived in Pittsburgh, Penn. and I can tell you that the state income tax is only the beginning.
First there is the state income tax, then the county tax, then the city of Pittsburgh income and property taxes. Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are allowed to levy income taxes but not the rest of the cities and towns.
So if you work or live in a neighboring county you have the good fortune of paying the “privilege tax” on top of all the other taxes. It just happens to be based on income but since they can’t have an “income tax” they have a “privilege tax.”
Sure, the neighboring “privilege tax” is deductible from some of your other tax obligations, but talk about a paper nightmare!
If you compare the other states around us to Connecticut and the answer is obvious: living in Connecticut is a deal.
And the reality is only the uber-wealthy will even consider moving and it is highly unlikely even these hedge fund babies will leave. For where? Texas, Florida or Nevada when New York City and the world are only a 30 minute limo ride? Please.
Strip away all of the rhetoric and it comes down to this: do we believe in standing up and assisting those less fortunate than ourselves at a nominal cost to some of our more well-to-do taxpayers or have we been reduced to, “I got mine who cares about you?”
God help us if it is the latter.
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Posted by: Bill | August 24, 2009 10:41 AM
Here's another solution, all the liberals who are complaining about spending cuts, and there are many, can increase their taxes voluntarily. The state treasurer will accept the money. Act now and stop being hypocrites.
Posted by: ariJamne | August 24, 2009 11:40 AM
Damn right!
Posted by: Iwonderhow | August 24, 2009 12:41 PM
Connecticut is expected to continue to lose jobs through 2011. By then there will be fewer jobs in Connecticut than in 1990.
It doesn't seem like a great leap that a different approach is needed. We were promised by income tax proponents that the it would even out revenues.
The economy in Connecticut is very weak, perhaps not for you. The question isn't about where people will go, and why would the next state over be their choice. Historically educated and skilled people have been leaving New England and the Northeast generally.
The region would have been decimated, except for the inflow of immigration. Unfortunately it takes a couple of generations for immigrant flows to truly boost the economy and tax revenues.
The choice in this current budget are a predictor of harsher measures to come. You can try to redistribute wealth but its not going to solve the problem. The change is too substantial. Connecticut did not really come out of the 1990 recession, it was boosted by the artificial spending of the last decade.
Like it or not there is now a world economy, and only real wealth creation will be good enough to create new tax revenue. Put your efforts and thoughts into how this is done,or expect further government rollbacks.
Posted by: Jack | August 24, 2009 1:22 PM
Another great idea, would be to return this year's Ct. Income Tax Refund. Or maybe the refund for the last 2 or 3 years. Return the Federal Refund too. That would be a shining example of compassionate Liberalism.
Posted by: meridenite | August 24, 2009 4:07 PM
note to self, ignore anything Steve Kalb writes.
Posted by: Sharon | August 25, 2009 6:40 AM
Most of us are good citizens. That means participating in the democratic process and yes, paying into a system that makes our state worth living in. I gladly pay my taxes. I only ask that the wealthy pitch in, too. No one's asking them for anything they can't handle. I'm sure most would gladly contribute. After all, they, too, use the publicly funded community services that make this state worth living in - whether we're talking about roads and highways, school systems, libraries, parks, or LifeStar emergency medical service. Wait until their Audi convertibles flip on 95 and the traffic's stopped dead & they need a ride to the ER to save their lives - suddenly they'll wish they'd contributed the $20/week. C'mon people, if you live in this state, you have some personal responsibility to contribute to the greater good, too. Let's not reflexively, without any critical thinking, yell about taxes unless we're foregoing things like driving on this state's roads, bridges, and highways, sending our kids to this state's schools, you get the picture.
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