Hamden Lures City’s Cops Of Color

(Updated) Keron Bryce has been New Haven’s “cop of the week” three times in just five years on the force — and like some other young black and Latina officers may already be joining an exodus to suburban police forces.

Bryce is one of five top finalists scheduled to be interviewed Thursday by Hamden’s Police Commission, which plans to hire three of the five finalists right away and the other two in the near future.

All five are New Haven cops. Four are black. One is Latina.

The exodus reflects a struggle New Haven has faced in recent years holding onto talent as the suburbs offer more money and better benefits for what’s often less strenuous or dangerous work. Eighteen members of one rookie class left for suburban forces within two years of graduating from the training academy. (Read a previous story about that here.)

“I love New Haven. I like working here. I love doing the work here. But I have to think of my family’s future and the future of myself as well,” said Bryce, who is 27 and grew up in Hamden.

“It’s still early in my career, so why not now? It’s best to do it now than later,” said another cop on the Hamden hiring list, Jasmine Sanders, who is 29. She too praised the New Haven department but said Hamden’s pay and benefits lured her. She said she also likes what she learned about the Hamden department’s community outreach efforts.

The pending Hamden moves reflect an added challenge of not just recruiting, but retaining cops of color in a majority black and Latino city.

City officials, currently in negotiations on a new police contract, have been aware of that challenge and trying to figure out solutions amid tough budget times.

“We need to think outside the box,” said New Haven Police Chief Anthony Campbell.

“We’re not mad at the [officers leaving]. I can’t be mad at you for wanting to pay the rent and make sure your child has a bright future,” Campbell said. “I think in many ways it’s a compliment to New Haven that the top people are from the New Haven police department. It shows that the training and the diversity we have in the department is really second to none.

“Don’t get me wrong — it hurts. The people [Hamden] is looking at are some of my best people. I was speaking to one of them today. She was very frank. She said: ‘I love this department. I love the work. I love the people that I work with.’ But their contract will have officers making $92,000 in 2020. That is extraordinarily hard to compete with. She said, ‘I’m a new mother. I’m a single mom.’”

Hamden’s Gain

Paul Bass PhotoCampbell also credited Hamden Chief Tom Wydra for diversifying his own town’s police force.

The top scorer on the Hamden top-five list is Jasmine Sanders, who started on the New Haven force in 2014. (Click here to read a “cop of the week” story about her.) The others are Keron Bryce, who started in 2012; Jenna Davis, who started in 2013, Michael White, who just retired in June after 20 years on the job; and Jinett Marte-Vasquez, who started in 2013.

(Update: Hamden’s police commission Thursday night voted to hire White, Bryce and Marte-Vazquez. “It was a very difficult decision for the police commission. All of the candidates were excellent and really good people,” Wydra stated afterwards.)

All five candidates from New Haven have passed the three-year mark in the Elm City, before which they would have had to reimburse New Haven $4,000 for their training if they went to work for another department. (Suburban departments routinely reimburse new cops who must pay the fine.)

The four current officers are currently earning a base salary of $68,297 in New Haven. White retired at $72,780.

If as expected they start to move over to Hamden (where in addition to the three current openings, two more are expected during the life of the approved civil service list), their annual salary will begin at $76,000, according to Wydra. Within four years they’ll earn $83,000.

When they retire, their pension will be calculated on not just their base pay, but on overtime work as well. They will receive health insurance that covers not just them, but their families. In recent years New Haven contracts have included givebacks for newer hires, including a removal of overtime in the pension calculation and health coverage for retirees’ families. New Haven retirees can no longer buy back five years of sick time as credit toward their pensions. And unlike in Hamden, they will receive pensions that are a hybrid of defined benefit and defined contribution plans; Hamden’s remains a fully defined benefit plan.

Many New Haven officers have also been considering retiring because of fears about further givebacks in the next contract. The cops’ most recent contract expired in 2016. They’ve been working under that contract’s provisions while their union negotiates a new contract with the city.

“I think a police agency in some ways should reflect the population it’s serving. Hamden is a very diverse community. We need a diverse department,” Wydra said of his outreach efforts. Currently his department has 106 cops (out of 110 budgeted positions.) Eight are female, nine African-American, five Hispanic, two Asian-American. The new hires will get the department to the 10 percent line for African-Americans, compared with around 20 percent of the town’s population, according to the 2010 census.

“Tony Campbell and I are friends. This is more about business. This is not about the New Haven department and lack of satisfaction,” Wydra said. Campbell echoed the sentiments, calling Wydra an “intelligent leader.”

City of New HavenAccording to most recent estimates, New Haven’s population is 33 percent black, 31 percent white, and 28 percent Hispanic (the rest “other”). The police force is 23 percent black, 54 percent white, 22 percent Hispanic.

Yale’s police force also pays better than New Haven’s. Yale Police Chief Ronnell Higgins said he made a point for a few years not to hire away any New Haven cops to respect then-Chief Dean Esserman’s efforts to rebuild the department. He said he still does not recruit from the New Haven department, though he will talk to anyone who applies. He hired one New Haven cop around a year ago.

What To Do?

Paul Bass Photo

City officials and the police union agree in principle on the need to pay cops more and improve benefits to compete better with the suburbs for talent. But the new state budget has left the city millions of dollars poorer than it had expected in passing its own budget earlier this year. There’s not a lot of money to play with.

When this issue has arisen in the recent past, some have suggested raising the penalty way beyond the current $4,000 for jumping to another force early in a police career, to move closer to the $60,000 or so New Haven pays to train each cop.

Chief Campbell suggested, in addition to finding a way to boost benefits on the “tail end” of a career to make it worth more to remain on the force, offering cops incentives to stay here. He offered two examples: a subsidy to reduce the down payment or a mortgage on a home purchased in New Haven, and tuition help for earning advanced degrees.

Retired Assistant Police Chief John Velleca recommended slashing the size of the workforce, from the current 500 cops to as low as 300, to free up the money to dramatically boost salaries and benefits.

Doing so would eliminate the department’s ability to afford, say, placing officers on walking beats in every district.

Velleca welcomed that idea.

“You’re going to have to break with these walking beats that everybody loves,” he said in an interview on WNHH FM’s “Dateline New Haven” program. “Don’t kid yourself. The walking beat officers aren’t swinging their nightsticks, whistling. They’re doing the same thing the cops in the cars are doing. They’re going to [calls]. In the downtime, they’re not shaking hands and kissing babies. They’re just walking up and down the street.

“The walking beat thing has been fed to this city for so long, it’s disgusting. Everybody believes walking beats is community policing. It’s not. Community policing resides in the officer, in the philosophy he takes to whatever assignment he’s in.”

Asked about Velleca’s suggestion, Mayor Toni Harp said she respects him and likes a lot of his ideas, but disagrees with this one. Harp co-designed the city’s original walking-beat-centered community policing plan three decades ago.

“I think the intangibles around community-based policing and a walking beat outweigh jumping into a car,” Harp said. It’s too impersonal.”

Click on or download the above audio file to listen to the full interview with former New Haven Assistant Police Chief John Velleca on WNHH FM’s “Dateline New Haven” program. The discussion about community policing, walking beats and police contract negotiations begins at the 28-minute point.

Click on or download the above audio file and Facebook Live video below to hear the full episode of this week’s “Mayor Monday” program on WNHH FM.

This episode of “Mayor Monday” was made possible with the support of Gateway Community College and Berchem Moses P.C.

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posted by: THREEFIFTHS on December 7, 2017  8:45am

KRS-One-Black Cop

https://youtu.be/vKypkj9Ggpo

posted by: 1644 on December 7, 2017  8:47am

Considering it costs about $100K to recruit and train a new police officer, a $4K penalty is ludicrously low.  The state needs to change the statute to make towns that recruit lateral transfers properly reimburse the town who trained the officers they recruit.

posted by: Ozzie on December 7, 2017  10:06am

Good luck to the officers that are leaving. It’s a no brainer to leave for better pay and benefits . When you take away a Pension and Medical Benefits especially from Police Officers and Firefighters you get what you deserve.
    As for walking beats Mayor Harp is clueless . People don’t want to hear when they call for service ,  is sorry there is no officers available because you have have 15 cops on walking beats in different parts of the City.
    All the walking beats I see downtown do nothing but walk around with their hands in their pockets . Drug dealing goes on all day on the Green and people are getting drunk and being carted away by ambulance. All Mayor has to do is look out her window and see for herself

posted by: Cove1 on December 7, 2017  10:41am

The city rather bleed out by hiring every year, than make a investment in retention. NHPD is the gateway to other departments.

posted by: Trustme on December 7, 2017  10:47am

Good for them, this city doesn’t appreciate the police. Cops are leaving this city at an alarming rate and have been for the past few years and the city won’t do ONE thing about it.

posted by: opin1 on December 7, 2017  12:50pm

Perhaps this isn’t as bad for NH as it initially seems.  What if we just accept this situation and plan for it? Let NH be the place where all officers train, work for a few years, and then a certain percent (60, 90% whatever it is) move on to other towns in the state. The key would then be making sure there is a good pipeline. With perpetual job shortages for New Haven residents there shouldn’t be a problem finding people who want to become officers. The trend of officers doing 3-5 years in New Haven and then many moving on to other towns, will keep New Haven’s costs down substantially for two reasons: 1. young officers make less than older officers 2. the city will have much less pensions to pay (since a smaller percent of officers are sticking around to receive their pensions). 

The exodus will be predictable and limited (should be about the same every year). The state as a whole basically has a fixed number of officers each year. The downside to this is that New Haven officers will be less experienced on average. But the flip side to that is they will be younger, more athletic, and more energetic.  Just like the military is young on average, with a smaller number of commanders who are more experienced, perhaps the same model is best for a police department. Embrace it.

posted by: Inside 165 on December 7, 2017  1:15pm

Velleca hit the nail right on the head. The NHPD is bloated. No one can even account for what these 497 budgeted positions do or where they are. Before the position cut they should attempt, at least try, to manage their loss time in the department. Then after reigning in sick and workers comp abuse they should cut the department to 375. With the projected 12+ million they would save they could put forward a reasonable salary and benefits package that would keep cops here and still have money left over to truly balance the budget in the wake of Harps reckless spending habits. Let’s face it anyone who’s head wasn’t up their a$$ knew last year that the state was in trouble and our funding was going to take a hit.

I would also get these cops off the walking beats except for maybe downtown where it makes sense. Harps advice on the issue is worth nothing because that’s what she know about policing. BTW she didn’t invent community policing in New Haven.  What people want is for a cop to be able to respond quickly when called. On foot doesn’t provid that.

For a temporary solution why don’t we take the 10k that Harps wants for an undeserved raise, cut her salary by an additional 20k and give it to the cops to stay.

The last piece of this puzzle to make it work is to install some real leadership in the NHPD. Chief Campbell is a real nice guy but his inability to make decisions and constantly undermining his own managers while placating lazy cops has driven morale in the PD to depths I could’ve even imagined a few years back. Those are the things that the rookies who are leaving want to say but they don’t bother, and smartly so.

posted by: thecove on December 7, 2017  1:49pm

I would agree that there is a deeper problem than that of pay and benefits, especially if you are losing talented officers.  The dedicated officers become police because of their love for the job and genuine desire to make a difference.  Salary and benefits are usually secondary, but considered.  The departure of these officers may indeed be an indication of a sense of lack of appreciation from the department’s administration and/or the citizens themselves.  Also, the walking beats must remain, as they do forge relationships between police and community.  Overall, the department must be doing something right with the plummeting homicide rate serving as an example.

posted by: IloveMYcity203 on December 7, 2017  3:00pm

@1644

I like that idea about making other towns/cities reimburse that fee. On the flipside, where did you get that astronomical amount of it costing the city 100k to train each officer? Unless the price drastically went up, I was told by training staff several years ago that it cost about 50k +/- to train recruits. I was also informed a year ago, that it was more but not that much more.

The NHI quoted that price at 60k or so to train each cop, which sounds about right seeing that it was 50K like 5+ years ago.


Excuse any typos or grammatical errors in advance. I did not proofread! haha

posted by: opin1 on December 7, 2017  3:23pm

The key is that New Haven gets reimbursed for the training costs but that shouldn’t be hard (sounds like they’re already doing this to some degree?).  And it’s important that NH gets a good healthy number of new candidates every year.  Creating law enforcement classes in some of the high schools would be a great way to do this. Just like high school courses offered for sciences, business, etc, why not for law enforcement?

As long as NH gets reimbursed for training, and can develop a solid pipeline of new officers, it should benefit from this cycle:  constantly bring in new talent every year, get a few years out of them, and let some of them go after a few years. The officers that want to leave for the suburbs benefit from the experience. New Haven benefits by having on average a younger, more motivated, more fit/athletic force than the suburbs, at a much lower cost. Let the suburbs have the older officers, pay the higher salaries for the longer careers, and pay the pensions at the end. Win-win for city and suburbs.

posted by: 1644 on December 7, 2017  4:51pm

ILove:  That figure was given to me by Branford’s police chief, a force which has also suffered from officers leaving for other forces which have defined benefit plus lifetime disability woven into the pension vice Branford defined contribution pension plans.  The two-year old NHI article linked above gives a cost of over $60K/officer.  The costs would include advertising, shifting through applications (pay and benefits for those who shift through the applications, interviews, physical and psychiatric examinations, uniform and equipment outfitting, tuition ant the state municipal police academy or the pro-rata costs of operating one’s one academy, salary and benefits of the candidate while in the academy (22 weeks) and for the 10 weeks after graduation when the officer can only operate as an understudy.  The costs of any who wash out along the way would need to be assigned pro-rata to those who make it through. Mind you, Branford’s starting pay is $20K/yr than New Haven’s.  In any case, whether it is $50 or $100K, it is a lot more than $4K.  Town like North Haven brag about how they save training costs by poaching officers that other towns have trained, officers who are no longer rookies but, like these officers, journeymen.

posted by: Realmom21 on December 7, 2017  5:11pm

Opinion1 reality teaching children(barely young adults straight out of high school) to make life and death decisions is not beneficial to the community or the about to be adult. They have no LIFE experience to draw on . They have limited information about relationships, finances, mediation etc to become officers. stop rushing children to make these decisions about careers in high school. Teach them all to read, write, and understand history..how many fresh man, sophomores and even juniors changes their majors as they mature and grow up. As they have life experiences. A well rounded education should be the primary focus of highschool. .As for retaining officers yes you ususally do it for the love of service but no one is naive enough to not consider the lessen number of calls for service, the difference in the pay and benefits .Retaining trained personnel in any field depends on working conditions, benefits, pay and long term security. If NEW HAVEN isn’t competing on those levels then shame on the adminstration or NEW HAVEN CITY ALDERS MAYOR ETC

posted by: narcan on December 7, 2017  5:14pm

Where is the voting option to “reprioritize existing budgets to allow salaries at closer to average for the area”? It’s not a question of taxes, it is a question of how the money is spent. If we value talented people in important positions like policing, we should not be asking them to choose between their desire to help the community and keep a roof over their head.

NHPD might also consider other benefits that don’t change pay scales directly, but still impact the money employees take home like lower pension or insurance contributions.

posted by: 1644 on December 7, 2017  6:21pm

Opin1:  Any organization with a skilled workforce, whether it be a police force, the military, a corporation, or a school district, wants a balance of rookies, journeymen, and master craftsmen, both on the line and in management.  It is often said the strength of the US and UK forces lies in their NCOs.  (The military and Jack Welch’s GE avoided the burnt-out deadwood problem by culling their workforce of low performers, something anathema to public employee unions.)  I know teachers have a steep rise in effectiveness in their first five years, and I imagine police also have a lot of intangible learning during their first years.  So, yes, as Narcan says, NHPD needs to ensure it offers a competitive package to its journeymen.  But it cannot afford to do so while force like North Haven are free riders on New Haven’s training program.  And yes, there are other areas that could be cut, the mayor’s raise, her driver, her liaison to to BoE, etc., but New Haven still needs to be paid for the training it provides to other departments.

posted by: Chrisssy on December 7, 2017  11:32pm

A lot of New Haven folks hate the police and blame them for everything so why wouldn’t they want to leave for a town that not only pays more but where they are respected and not blamed for everything that goes wrong in the city! Can’t blame them for leaving gun wavin new haven! BLUE LIVES MATTER

posted by: 1644 on December 8, 2017  8:32am

Chrissy:  Hamden is very similar to New Haven, with many of the same policing challenges.  Some town borders are obvious, that between New Haven and Hamden is not. A New Haven cop friend told me that he moved from Hamden in part because many of his Hamden neighbors were people he was arresting on the streets of New Haven, which, yes, was not endearing him to them.  As for abusive cops, the reaction to Det. Conklin’s proposed move shows that even the poshest suburb isn’t fond of them.
  BTW, I am heartened that these cops moving to Hamden are not looking for a placid posting, and will apply much of the learning and experience they gained in New Haven in a similar community.  For one of them, he is actually returning to his hometown.

posted by: strangefruit on December 8, 2017  12:14pm

New Haven has an issue attracting cops because of pay and benefits. Training should be seen as a forgivable loan over a ten year period (length it takes to become fully vested in pension). Every year, roughly $6k would be forgiven so if a PO wants to leave after 3 years they would be on the hook for $42,000.

Or… follow what many other states do and have Peace Officer training where individuals could be affiliated or non-affiliated (a PD pays or you pay yourself).

Blaming the PO who flee is like blaming Trump for using loopholes. If they are there, why not exploit them.

If New Haven is stuck on having a walking beat, pay a lower wage and have it be the true “entry level” policing

posted by: Ozzie on December 8, 2017  1:17pm

The City will never keep officers, especially when they’re offered a 1 % raise and no pension or better benefits in contract negotiations. As for reimbursement for training , someone will challenge that in court and the City will lose like they always do. For the officers that didn’t get hired this time there’s always a next time . Stay safe people

posted by: challenge on December 8, 2017  9:52pm

I agree with inside. Officers leaving has less to do with salary and benefits and more to do with the toxic environment on the inside. That’s why they are fleeing. You would think they were making minimum wage by all the talk about salaries. Give me a break.For many their “tough job” consists of countless traffic stops and crisis reporting. So much criminal activity goes on on the New Haven green across from city hall and the police substation and you can’t find an officer until someone is overdosing.

posted by: 1644 on December 9, 2017  8:54am

Ozzie:  Given that police are civilians, subject to civilian law, a reimbursement fee cannot be imposed on them without their consent, either by individual contract or union contract.  It could, however, be imposed legislatively on municipalities such as North Haven, who, more than the individual officers, benefit from lateral hiring.  Municipalities are creatures of the state, so, if the state says they have to do something, they have to do it.  The existing $K fee is a foot in the door: it could easily be ratcheted up.  The determining factor here is the political balance in the legislature between town that benefit from poaching and those that don’t.  New Haven, East Haven, and Branford have all suffered from poaching, so there’s a start to a solution right there.  There would need to be some horse trading involved, so New Haven’s legislators can’t shut themselves out of negotiations as Lemar did with the budget.  Moreover, if New Haven didn’t have to spend so much on training officers, it would have more money available to pay its journeymen more.

posted by: DisgracedNewHaven on December 10, 2017  5:29pm

Just like in typical fashion, New Haven has a reactive response instead of proactive to the large exodus of experienced officers leaving for other departments. How about instead of making the officer or recieving department pay a large sum of money as restitution, you give the officer a reason or reasons to stay. It doesn’t take a MIT graduate to figure this stuff out. Oh, but by all means, please give the mayor a $10k raise; and why you’re at it, why dont we give a $9k raise to each police chief. But don’t even think of giving the officers who are working 45+ hour weeks to make ends meet for their family a raise or pay bump; especially around this time of year when it’s the hardest.

That’s okay New Haven; keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. What you’ve been doing for years is literally the definition of insanity. Officers will continue to leave in droves until you change your ways.

#shamefulnewhaven

posted by: tcc036 on December 12, 2017  12:08pm

@ Paul Bass- I think it would be worth asking some other questions I don’t see asked here.
1) I wonder how these officers feel about morale in the Department. While some issues do stem from money, studies have shown people will work for less if they’re happy and have good morale. Why the exodus? I thought Esserman leaving was going to help. Instead, it exacerbated the problem.
2) “City officials and the police union agree in principle on the need to pay cops more and improve benefits to compete better with the suburbs for talent” I think it’s worth asking, what exactly the city is offering to even try to compete with smaller towns. From everything I’ve heard, the City has offered NOTHING!. They haven’t offered raises, not even a Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) to keep up with inflation. Not only has the City offered nothing, I’ve heard they want the police department to give more to the City.
The City of New Haven (CONH) currently deducts 1.25 percent of each officer’s check to pay for health benefits for retired officers. Imagine paying for benefits you won’t even receive yourself. Then imagine being told the CONH wants to double that deduction to 2.5 %. Think about that for a moment. Let’s say you’re an officer in the CONH. You work Extra Duty (privately contracted) and overtime to support your family. You hit the 100,000 mark. Then imagine %1,250-2,500 dollars is taken from you to pay for someone else. And they wonder why younger officers are fleeing the Dept. That’s an insult. Just another insult newly hired officers are not being made aware of. All while being told the CONH doesn’t want to offer you anything.  Then they also negotiates in bad faith on other issues.

posted by: tcc036 on December 12, 2017  12:09pm

Part 2
The reality is the CONH has offered nothing and deserves nothing. It is worth noting, Mayor Harp has went to the Corporation Council requesting a $10,000 raise to bring her to” par with surrounding towns”. I’m waiting to see when she will offer something to the police department other than the “we’re working with the police department on negotiating a contract” lip service. That’s ALL it is. Lip service. The Corp Council NOR the Mayor made any offers other than to make the next contract worse.
As far as the mortgage subsidy, I’m not sure any cop in New Haven should feel safe about arresting someone in New Haven and then washing their car at home while that same person walks-by. I’ve heard stories about New Haven officers being harassed by people while out with their families off-duty. Imagine dealing with drug dealers and thugs all week and they walk by your residence with your family and children. While it sounds nice, let’s be real, the NHPD is NOT dealing with the most rational and law abiding people on earth. They’re dealing with hard-core felons which I’m sure would love to retaliate against every one who wears the uniform.
The educational assistance sounds nice, but not a great benefit. School is not for everyone.

Bottom line, you look at the NHPD, men and women who have risked their lives, been shot at, been killed, why would anyone want to stay there? Look at the incident on Elm Street two months ago where the responding officers were shot. Why would anyone want to risk their lives for a Community that craps on them and an Administration that doesn’t appreciate them? Look at the response from the Administration and Community to the officers involved in that shooting. I haven’t heard much. Did anyone even offer support for the Officer who was out of work? I was told no. That’s not a sign of being appreciated. From a City perspective and an organizational perspective, it’s shameful. Shameful.

posted by: tcc036 on December 12, 2017  12:10pm

Part 3
The City and its residents don’t respect the NHPD. The patrol officers of the NHPD only have each other.

For everyone else, there’s galas, nepotism, handouts and political hook-ups. For NHPD Officers, there’s a foot for their backside.

posted by: challenge on December 12, 2017  4:24pm

@tcc036: Tell us how you really feel about New Haven residents.  Hopefully you’re not one of those being paid to “protect and serve people” whom you obviously have strong negative feelings for.

posted by: DisgracedNewHaven on December 12, 2017  4:38pm

@tcc036

Couldn’t have said it any better than that.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on December 12, 2017  5:54pm

posted by: tcc036 on December 12, 2017 12:10pm
Part 3
The City and its residents don’t respect the NHPD. The patrol officers of the NHPD only have each other.

B.S.It is about the money.This is why they are leaving.It is the same thing in West Haven.In fact one of the reasons why poilce are leaving West Haven is that B.S. 410K they are in.It is about the pay..I know some officers who are going to take the test for Nassau County P.D. Look at what they make.

https://www.pdcn.org/148/Recruitment

I know officers who left and now work for. the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey.P.D. Look. at what they make.

http://www.papdrecruit.com/pages/salary-benefits Notice no B.S.401K

Sorry it is about the money.

posted by: Ozzie on December 13, 2017  10:43am

Morale in the department has been low for the last couple of decades just look at all the past no confidence votes. Don’t blame morale for cops leaving Veteran officers began to leave the department in droves starting in 2011 when rumors began to swirl that the City wanted pension and medical benefits back and the Union leadership sold out new hires and they were given partial pensions or none at all. I for one cannot blame newly hired cops for leaving for better wages and benefits as some of the commenters on this site.
  If there wasn’t so many freeloaders living off the City then monies would be available to pay the workers and provide benefits for them. For those people who say that the cops are leaving with fat pensions it was those same cops who contributed to the pension fund , not the City who under funded their share of the payment for years .
  Lastly the Cops deserve those pensions because their the ones who gave up nights , weekends and holidays away from their families to protect those freeloaders and the rest of the City from mayhem .

posted by: tcc036 on December 13, 2017  1:06pm

@challenge - Telling the truth isn’t being negative. Do you see residents in surrounding towns committing as many felonious acts as New Haven residents? Shootings, drug dealing, assaults, etc. Perhaps I’m imagining all of the violence in New Haven. Perhaps I’m imagining all of the overdoses that come from the illicit drug dealing? These things are real, they’re all FAKE NEWS!

When I look at the posts on this website about NHPD, how often do I see something positive? Even when a cop does a legitimate good job, the naysayers come in and tear them down. They never get respect, even when its due.

@ threefifths- a family member turned down a smaller department with MORE pay, a BETTER pension, and less years. All to be of service. It would be nice if that service was RESPECTED AND the NHPD officers better compensated for it. So tell me again its only about money.

People will often accept less if they feel they’re respected and needed. Something SORELY lacking in this City.

The people of this City have biased opinions and the City openly invites the disrespect the officers have to face daily. They invite it by showing how much they don’t respect the department and the citizens follow suit.

“So over you is the greatest enemy a man can have and that is fear. I know some of you are afraid to listen to the truth—you have been raised on fear and lies. But I am going to preach to you the truth until you are free of that fear…”