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Star Supply Project Moves Forward

by Thomas MacMillan | Apr 18, 2014 7:14 am

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Posted to: Business/ Economic Development, Housing, East Rock, Goatville, Upper State Street

Thomas MacMillan Photo A plan to bring new life to a long-shuttered industrial complex won another approval Wednesday night, with an aim for completion in 2 years.

The approval came at the monthly meeting of the City Plan Commission, in City Hall Wednesday evening.

The commission approved a site plan review for a proposal to build a mixed-use development at the complex of five brick buildings, at the north end of State Street in the Goatville neighborhood.

Four of the buildings will be demolished. The fifth, facing south, will be renovated as offices and retail space. Behind, developers will build a complex of apartments and townhouses—235 residential units all together.

Ken Friedrichsen, of Post Road Residential, the development company, said the building will take another six months to design, then 18 months to construct.

He said he doesn’t know yet what will go in the retail space. The developers have had interest from a coffee shop among other things.

Friedrichsen declined to say how much the project will cost.

The next step, after completing the design, is securing a building permit.

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posted by: robn on April 18, 2014  8:48am

Is Ben Gross no longer in this partnership? Are the designs they presented to the community last year no longer on the table?

posted by: wendy1 on April 18, 2014  9:08am

How much of this project will be affordable??? for normal people???

posted by: Bradley on April 18, 2014  7:19pm

Wendy, the answer to your question depends on how you define “normal people.” Based on the developers’ earlier presentations, the units will be affordable for the average family in the metro area; they will not be affordable for most city residents.

posted by: Christopher Schaefer on April 19, 2014  6:11am

I hope they’re going to save those amazing airplane bas reliefs on the side facing State Street at number 1060. Anybody know the history re why they are there?

posted by: jim1 on April 19, 2014  7:41am

Bradley Then if that is the case it will open up a lot of rents in town for the in town people??
                              Who are the “normal people of New Haven”.  Those that have 2 or 3 jobs {at medium wages} to pay those rents, It looks like New Haven will have only rents in the $2500.00 to $5000.00 range and every one else can live on the street..!!

posted by: Threefifths on April 19, 2014  11:45am

Four of the buildings will be demolished. The fifth, facing south, will be renovated as offices and retail space. Behind, developers will build a complex of apartments and townhouses—235 residential units all together.

Like I keep saying.Gentrification Vampires.

The Gentrification Test

http://youtu.be/2jlHImqgcNo

posted by: robn on April 19, 2014  8:41pm

3/5,

Gentrification is better than Slumification.

posted by: Nashstreeter on April 19, 2014  11:49pm

I don’t know, 3/5s. From where I sit I have absentee landlords to the left of me, absentee landlords to the right of me, absentee landlords up and down the street. One of them rented his place out to IRIS clients and left them not knowing what to do when sewage overflowed into the back yard (adjacent to my back yard). Once the (very friendly, happy to shovel) IRIS guys were gone, he saw no need to EVER clear his sidewalk, despite 3 heavy snowfalls. The sidewalk on Eagle Street is truly 3rd world—a roller coaster of asphalt and concrete patches overwhelmed by rising tree roots.
When people raise the alarm about “gentrification,” I wonder, “compared to what”? A little homey? A little funky? That’s fine. But slumlords? City neglect? Homeless encampments? Dirty needles on the Little League baseball field? A little gentrification doesn’t look all that bad. Might be an interesting change from the days when the “gentry” all fled to the suburbs to escape New Haven.

posted by: Bradley on April 20, 2014  5:35am

The developers have said they will save the bas relief sculptures, which are very cool.

Jim1, Star Supply and the developments downtown will put some downward pressure on rents. But New Haven has a segmented housing market and I doubt the developments will have much impact in the Hill,  Newhallville, or, for that matter, Morris Cove.

3/5ths,gentrification is happening in New Haven, but the Star Supply development is not an example of it. It is a a middle-income development in a largely middle-income neighborhood that won’t displace current residents. In contrast, Winchester Lofts will be charging comparable rents in a much poorer neighborhood, although it too is taking place in an industrial site.

posted by: Christopher Schaefer on April 20, 2014  5:41am

@ Threefifths. Or the other way to gentrify a neighborhood is to create a “local historic district”. Theoretically this prohibits owners from making alterations that will affect the historic integrity of old houses, etc. In practice here in Hew Haven, people still do whatever they want to their homes in “local historic districts”, but because they live in a “historic district” they can charge 4 times as much for sale or rent—which keeps out those “undesirable people”, if you know what I mean…

posted by: Threefifths on April 20, 2014  3:25pm

posted by: Nashstreeter on April 20, 2014 12:49am

I don’t know, 3/5s. From where I sit I have absentee landlords to the left of me, absentee landlords to the right of me, absentee landlords up and down the street. One of them rented his place out to IRIS clients and left them not knowing what to do when sewage overflowed into the back yard (adjacent to my back yard)

posted by: robn on April 19, 2014 9:41pm

3/5,

Gentrification is better than Slumification.

You should Blame the city for not enforcing the laws when it comes to absentee landlords. New york city and other states use Sanitation Police along with other agencies to deal with absentee landlords.

posted by: Threefifths on April 20, 2014  3:34pm

posted by: Bradley on April 20, 2014 6:35am

3/5ths,gentrification is happening in New Haven, but the Star Supply development is not an example of it. It is a a middle-income development in a largely middle-income neighborhood that won’t displace current residents. In contrast, Winchester Lofts will be charging comparable rents in a much poorer neighborhood, although it too is taking place in an industrial site.

Have you seen what is comparable rents in this state.

http://www.forrent.com/search-apartments-by-area/CT.php

posted by: robn on April 21, 2014  10:19am

Gee thanks 3/5; I didn’t realize that NYC is slum free (sarcasm).

posted by: Threefifths on April 21, 2014  4:43pm

posted by: robn on April 21, 2014 11:19am
Gee thanks 3/5; I didn’t realize that NYC is slum free (sarcasm).

But all jokes aside.They do not play around.Look at the fines you can get.

G E N E R A L C O D E S / P R O V I S I O N S
Except where specifically noted, the following laws are applicable to all
residents, merchants, businesses, stores, restaurants, and commercial and
residential premises.


Littering, sweeping, throwing, or casting any material such as ashes, garbage,
paper, dust or other refuse or rubbish into or upon any street or public place,
vacant lot, air shaft, areaway, backyard, court, or alley is illegal. Throwing refuse
out of windows (i.e., buildings or vehicles) is also a violation

FINE: $100-$450 - 1st Offense
$250-$450 - 2nd Offense within 12 months
$350-$450 - 3rd & Subsequent Offenses within 12 months

Unlawful Placement of Handbills on Vehicles
In accordance with State law, it is illegal for any person to affix any handbill,
poster, notice, sign, advertisement, sticker or other printed material on any part
of a motor vehicle. Fines start at $75 per handbill, poster, sticker, or other form
of advertisement.

Read the rest.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/downloads/pdf/rules/digest/DSNY_Rules_Reg.pdf

Again blame the city for not enforcing the laws when it comes to absentee landlords.

posted by: RhyminTyman on April 22, 2014  8:47am

It is hardly gentrification when you turn unused industrial zoned property into middle income residential. New Haven needs more middle class residents. The retail space is huge. We have so many places to eat, but no place to shop. We are losing so much money to North Haven, Milford and Orange. Let’s take some of that back.

posted by: robn on April 22, 2014  9:21am

3/5,

Sure. Here’s a shot of the beautifully maintained property near the 125th street station.

http://goo.gl/maps/Pv4H7

posted by: RhyminTyman on April 22, 2014  9:54am

3/5 I wouldn’t use NYC as an example. They have a thriving middle class, something you seem opposed or at least don’t care about. They have much more expensive rents. They have a crazy amount of gentrification. They still have blight. Would I trade NHV’s problem for NYC’s? Sure but I can’t see how that isn’t an example of how gentrification is bad.

posted by: Edward Francis on April 22, 2014  7:32pm

Christopher Schaefer commented “hope they’re going to save those amazing airplane bas reliefs on the side facing State Street at number 1060. Anybody know the history why they are there?”

The building with the airplane bas reliefs on State Street was known as the M.B. Manufacturing Company during World War II and after.  I believe the M.B. stood for Mettler Brothers.  I always thought they were making airplane parts.  They also sponsored a pretty good fast pitch softball team that played in New Haven’s Industrial League.  One of the softball diamonds at Blake Field was just outside their fence facing the park.

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