Progress Reported In Teen-Murder Investigation

I am so tired of reading about this regularly. The schools can’t keep our children safe and I implore everyone to go on these meetings exclusively to the BOE, police, Alders and whoever will listen to end this continuing cycle of death and destruction. The mayor and school officials need to be held accountable for not coming togther to figure out how to make our schools safer. The police need to get this problem in check. Schools are in disarray and are more violent than ever before. Parents need to be more accountable for the actions of their children. The system in place is no longer working. Kids have zero remorse on the evil they do. I hope the mayor reads this because he needs to be in the forefront of this change or the city of new haven needs someone that will. Enough is enough.

The gun violence we see in New Haven is a national problem, not just a local problem.
There is no easy solution to gun violence in America. The place to start is with national gun control legislation to address this national dilemma and disgrace.
As long as there are more guns than people in this country, as long as there is such easy access to guns, a long as the gun lobby bribes and blackmails our legislatures, as long as gun culture and the perverted interpretation of the Second Amendment continues to be promoted as our national birthright, we will live with this problem.
No mayor, no police chief, no police department, no school system can stop this national nightmare. It will take a concerted effort of national, state and local governments, and all citizens: parents, young people, activists, social workers, educators, counselors and others to solve this problem of violence and deaths by guns.
Parents do need to be more accountable for the actions of their children. Some parents are afraid of their armed kids. The police can't be at every home, every street corner, or very single school. The culture of intentionally not informing police about crime, criminals, illegal gun possesion and potential acts of violence must end. There should be a contract of cooperation between the police department and the community.
Nobody can save us from the violence we see but US. NOT HIM. NOT THEM. US.
We have to seize the time, the opportunity and the power to unite and act, address and resolve these cycles of violence without pointing accusatory fingers at so many others!

I’m sorry if your the head of your town than the accountability starts with you. If your kids are brought up to do whatever they want than you are accountable for your child’s actions. If the school systems keep lessening the amount of services needed to help our children than you are accountable. If a teenager can pull the trigger with no remorse than they need to be held accountable. You can make the gun laws as stringent as possible but there will always be guns, knives, bats used to kill on another. We live in a violent society and those causing violence need to be held accountable. The amount of ghost guns available has become an increasing problem around the country. We forgot how to live in a peaceful society and morals and values are not taught and if they are taught the quick access to violence is easily available through all sorts of social media platforms. The pipeline from school to jail is real but you need to make people accountable for their actions. You can’t have violent actions in schools go unchecked for the sake of numbers and statistics. We need a better sense of community and services needed to help those in dire situations with there kids and families.

Our tears flow and hearts ache for this young soul, another young soul, lost to gun violence. I can only hope that as a community we embrace and support this family in their darkest moments.

In 1967 Martin Luther King’s lens expanded beyond civil rights and inequality to the militarism pushed from every corner of the land. He also recognized that the illegal, murderous U.S. war on Vietnam was disastrous for the country.

Young Black men were pushing against the nonviolent resistance to segregation and discrimination that King led. He told “the desperate, rejected, and angry young men… that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems… that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they asked, and rightly so, ‘What about Vietnam?’ “wasn’t [the U.S.] using massive doses of violence to solve its problems…?”

Today, the people face violence on many fronts. The U.S. government just passed an $858 billion dollar subsidy to killing in the form of the military budget. That budget funds wars in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Sudan. Other budgets fund wars in Palestine and economic wars on 40 countries like Cuba and Venezuela. Congress just OK’d tens of billions to prolong the war on Ukraine a disaster for Europe and the world, loudly inching up to nuclear confrontation.

But, as Rev. King analyzed in his “Beyond Vietnam” speech of 1967, the violence of militarism abroad explodes at home - the violence of racism, joblessness, homelessness, lack of food and transportation, a crumbling infrastructure seen most vividly in our cities. The violence against immigrants, against school children.

When and only when the taxpayers, parents and children of our country rise up and demand an end to the government and corporations flushing millions of humans and billions of physical resources into creating violence and being its victims, only then will it cease. You and I.

The constitution clearly gives citizens the right to bear arms, and there are multitudes of laws and restrictions for gaining access to and using them. The problem we have right now, is there seems to little stomach by our elected leaders, inclusive of Attorneys General, and Chief Prosecutors - to go after the criminal element that use these weapons to offensively kill. You see it every day, felons caught with handguns, stolen cars/car-jackings with handguns, robberies, muggings, and purse-snatchings with handguns, and no prosecutions. But Chris Murphy and Ned Lamont should show up any minute on Valley St, and carp about gun control and banishing AR15's. It's all theater at this point, political capital bought on gun violence, which is allowed by progressive thoughts and actions. Go after the offenders with the laws on the books.

If people do not believe that they will be held accountable, there will be no decline in violent crimes, especially by minors.

“The store’s owner showed News 8 footage of Vazquez leaving the store and getting on his bike. A black SUV then comes down the road and slows down. Someone opens a door, shoots, and then drives away.“

Ever drive by that store? There’s always prostitutes and drug dealers hanging out. Kids should not be going to that store or on those streets. Keep them inside.

MrHinkyDink
Dec 20, 2022 10:48 am
The constitution clearly gives citizens the right to bear arms, and there are multitudes of laws and restrictions for gaining access to and using them.

But the constitution was written when gun technology consisted of flintlocks and muzzle loaders. In fact the goverment can make a law that you can only have flintlocks and muzzle loaders.And it will not would not violate your so call second amendment.

go after the criminal element that use these weapons to offensively kill. You see it every day, felons caught with handguns, stolen cars/car-jackings with handguns, robberies, muggings, and purse-snatchings with handguns, and no prosecutions.
Sorry it is not just the criminal element.How abot these people.

A Handgun for Christmas Will a jury find James and Jennifer Crumbley criminally responsible for their son’s mass shooting?

Under federal law, it is illegal for a minor to own a handgun, but the same law includes an exemption for target practice. The Crumbleys had sometimes gone to the range during the pandemic. A signed waiver for Ethan was already on file.In July 2022, New York Magazine published “A Handgun for Christmas,” a story about Jennifer and James Crumbley, the Michigan parents charged with manslaughter after their 15-year-old son brought a gun to school and killed four of his classmates.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/oxford-school-shooting-ethan-crumbley-parents.html

Did you know the the major of Guns used in Domestic Violence the person are not felons.

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As I said back in 2019
THREEFIFTHS
May 1, 2019 3:31 pm
But we can not leave out the available of guns.Also America is an exceptional country when it comes to guns. U. S. history shows It's one of the few countries in which the right to bear arms is constitutionally protected. But America's relationship with guns is unique in another crucial way: Among developed nations, the US is far and away the most homicidal in large part due to the easy access many Americans have to firearms H.Rap Brown said it well when he said this "Violence Is As American As Cherry Pie"

As I said before.We should go back to flint lock firearms.

MrHinkyDink
Dec 20, 2022 10:48 am
The constitution clearly gives citizens the right to bear arms,

Former Chief Justice Warren Burger, a conservative, said the idea that there was an individual right to bear arms was "a fraud."

Former Chief Justice Warren Burger, a conservative, said the idea that there was an individual right to bear arms was "a fraud." If he were writing the Bill of Rights now, he said in 1991, "There wouldn't be any such thing as the Second Amendment."

He declared on PBS that the Second Amendment "has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

Warren Burger "2nd Amendment Fraud" - 1991 PBS News Hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya_k4P-iEo&t=28s

“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. [It is] not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”
JUSTICE ANTONIN SCALIADISTRICT OF COLUMBIA V. HELLER, 2008

Notice both are conservative.

Bring back FlintLock Fire Arms.

I don't know what's more heartbreaking - the murder of a local teen or the fact that a local teen was potentially murdered by another local teen.

I'm so sorry Joshua, your future was taken from you.

Please, New Haven, speak up if you know anything about this.

Murderous teenagers / Teenager murderers - they must be held accountable to the strongest degree. You can not and should not protect a murderer.

Please, do the right thing New Haven - help in any way you to catch those that took part in the murder of Joshua.

A recent audit of military expenditures found $1-2 trillion unaccounted for.
$858 billion for the current budget is the largest in the world.
Meanwhile poverty, discrimination and crime, mass shootings - once rare are now routine - all indict the power elites for their failure to provide healthcare, jobs, free education or skill training, affordable housing and a society in which the collective wealth is used for the Common Good.
None of our major institutions works any more and we are collapsing from within.
No need to worry about foreign enemies. Those in power couldn't (or wouldn't) stop the opioid epidemic and mis-handled the Covid epidemic.
The truth is seeping out, despite government success in using social and mass media to limit their story lines to approved narratives.
Another child has been cut down.
It has become "routine".
The rage has to go some where.

Let’s talk about the responsibility of the gun makers, and gun sellers, and the gun owners who are able to sell their guns illegally or legally with few restrictions to wind up on the streets in the hands of people who should not have a gun in their hands.
Let’s talk about gun registration and smart locks technology to prevent the theft and illegal changing of hands of weapons with no paper trail, few background checks, ghost guns, online sales, and gun show sales.
Let’s talk about weapons of war whose sole purpose is to kill people with maximum damage and no value in hunting or merely defending yourself.
Let’s talk about only pistols and rifles that are appropriate for hunting or self defense at the time that the 2nd amendment was turned, and that it was to protect a “WELL REGULATED Militia,” and let’s talk about no semi automatics or bump stocks or kits to make a weapon be able to do mass destruction without reloading in seconds, well before the authorities are even informed of the situation or can respond.
Let’s talk about toxic masculinity, and violence being sold and targeted to young people in the form of entertainment in violent video games, movies and tv, and as a recruiting tool for the military and the police.
Let’s talk about the unchecked and unregulated toxic social media and dark web and internet sites that have algorithms that lead people to fall down rabbit holes of violence, anger, sexual abuse, and confirmation bias of prejudice, racism, sexism, and misogyny.
Let’s talk about the lack of mental health care access, lack of substance abuse treatment, lack of supportive services for dysfunctional families, and lack of living wage jobs.
Let’s talk about the lack of action when two cars full of kids not from a school pull up and start a fight in front of the school, and few if any proactive measures were taken to protect the kids involved when they were off school grounds.
When will we say enough?

My condolences to the loved ones of the deceased are not enough.
Until we stand up, speak out, and say no more, our thoughts and prayers and condolences ring hollow to those who grieve the loss of their loved ones.
When is enough, enough?

I am heartbroken for the loss of this beautiful child. Another child, a member of our community, is dead, victim of senseless violence. To Joshua’s family, I am so sorry for your loss.

Gun violence in New Haven is a local problem. It is not a national problem. It is repeated in communities across the country but that doesn't make it a national problem that needs a national solution like more gun control. We have lots of gun control already. But it's the law abiding citizens who abide by gun laws - are not the ones who are killing people. These people won't abide by gun laws no matter what they are. It is senseless to keep saying the same things when you know what the problem is - kids with guns? Parents don't know? Parents enable? What values were these kids taught? Why don't they have any? What you have here - is a fundamental failure at home and these tragedies are the result.

@OneCityDump seems to be conflicted. Is gun violence in America a local problem or a national problem? Are gun deaths and violence only committed by "criminals?"
We live in a nation with more guns than people. That is bound to be a national problem. Every week there are accidently deaths, suicides, and homicides among family members, friends acquaintances and total strangers by guns. School shootings, mall shootings, grocery store shootings, shootings at places of worship! Rural, urban and suburban shootings
We lead the world in gun violence and deaths. That does not constitute a national crisis in need of a national solution?
Most nations of the world do not face the gun violence and deaths we see with regularity.
Conservatives duck and hide and defend gun ownership without limit or restriction to our national peril. They repeat the same talking points that One City Dump does here: gun control is senseless. It will only strip the law-abiding of their guns, while criminals will continue to be armed and violent. Do nothing to control guns.
The Do-Nothing crowd watches the carnage, while the blood of the dead across this country cries out for the living to act with courage and conviction and do whatever other countries do to make their gun deaths a small fraction of our own!
Ban assault weapons! Impose universal background checks! Register guns like we register cars. Require training in gun use and safety.
Put gun maufacturers and the gun lobby, including the NRA in check.
This country has been held hostage by groups who cloak themselves in a perveted interpretation of an 18th century 2nd Amendment that does not fit the needs of 21st century America!
Until this nation wakes up and rejects the status quo, we will continue to maintain the pathetic record of the nation with the most guns and the deaths to prove it!

AMEN! One City Dump. I'll add that it is a small number of people creating this chaos. BUT, and its a big but, the community is enabling this activity by not helping the NHPD. It doesn't take much effort to drop an anonymous tip.

One City Dump
Dec 20, 2022 10:33 pm
Gun violence in New Haven is a local problem. It is not a national problem. It is repeated in communities across the country but that doesn't make it a national problem that needs a national solution like more gun control.

It is a national problem.Every here of the The Dixie pipeline?
https://www.newhavenindependent.org/article/16_year_old_shot_dead_on_valley_street#cmt

You even have soldiers part of the gun pipeline.
Chicago gun pipeline traced to three Fort Campbell soldiers

Three soldiers at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, were arrested Tuesday by ATF and CID special agents after they allegedly purchased dozens of guns to be used on the streets of Chicago, including pistols found at a mass shooting that left one person dead and several others wounded earlier this year.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/05/11/chicago-gun-pipeline-traced-to-three-fort-campbell-soldiers/

Look at these big time arms dealers who are cashing in as the Biden administration quietly encourages private weapons sales to Ukraine.

She’s a Doctor. He Was a Limo Driver. They Pitched a $30 Million Arms Deal
After falling out with his partner at a limousine company in the St. Louis suburbs, Martin Zlatev recently sought a lucrative new business opportunity: selling $30 million worth of rockets, grenade launchers and ammunition to the Ukrainian military.Mr. Zlatev and his new business partner, a local osteopath, took their first crack at international arms dealing.

You can bet some of there fire armsare being sold in the streets across this country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/06/world/europe/ukraine-private-arms-deals.html
There is a old saying. Start at the top.The rest will fall.

Heather C. you hit the nail on the head.

More guns. More dead people. More guns more dead People. More guns more dead people. Got it?

The problem is greed and the need for profits from the gun manufacturers. Period.

If the gun manufacturers were producing bicycles instead of guns we might have a cleaner environment, healthier people and a greater sense of community.

If Electric Boat was producing pre-fabricated, low cost houses instead of submarines that are worthless we might solve the housing "problem".

If profits from the killing industry went to establish free health clinics on every corner, we might have a healthier country.

Let's use our energy to re-imagine the potential of our human spirit to make change!

We can rid our communities of guns if we want to. We can have safe schools where students thrive if we want to and it's not just about money.

And, lets' stop blaming the parents many of whom have to work all day just to survive. Let's not blame the Mayor and others because what is lacking is the political will by the larger New Haven community working together to make change.

The decay of capitalism is at the root of this problem and it is hurting the working class more than it is affecting the rich, White people.

The root of this problem is the poverty created by the decay of capitalism.

But, that doesn't mean this problem can't be solved.

The killing is over, if we want it.

I’m so sorry for the family’s loss and for this young man. I would love to read an Indy article that interviews students about life during and after school downtown. Maybe Love Babz? A huge part of the NH high school student body congregates downtown where there are nearly no public spaces that provide free entertainment or areas to recreate.This is a problem that a Mayor with vision who takes accountability and could be solving with his administration and the community.

RedAlert23 said one thing that is the main issue to the down fall of this young man. I wish I had the answer "Parents need to be more accountable for the actions of their children. " When the Police look at this young man's school time short as it was. They will find a very angry young man. How do we help parents deal with this anger and keep them is school without endangering other students? The schools are accountable to protect all students what can they do when the action of one threatens. Enough said.

The internet: A huge part of the NH high school student body congregates downtown where there are nearly no public spaces that provide free entertainment or areas to recreate.

How about the kids join a school club, get a job, volunteer somewhere, or go to the free public library and do their homework?

There simply isn't an easy solution for these problems otherwise we would have solved it ages ago. No, you're not going to solve gun violence by creating a few basketball courts on the green or by reducing defense spending. I also find it insulting that somehow the schools are to blame here? Schools provide myriad functions but they cannot solve every issue in society. The issues here are complex and multifaceted and short of banning all guns, these issues will remain however many community spaces you build downtown.

It is the Wild West out there a school bus today had a bullet ricochet and hit the bus. The kids have zero guidance at home. If you disagree the home is where your life begins and kids watch everything that goes on. The problem continues until someone is shot dead or badly wounded. You can ask for gun control but there are enough guns out there that this problem will continue even with gun control. Ghost guns are at there infancy stage and will make it easier to obtain.

Thomas Paine there is an easy solution to gun violence.

Take the damned AR-15 WAR guns off the market. Schools are not WAR zones. Concerts are not WAR zones.

Were the children in Sandy Hook armed? Were the people in a concert in Las Vegas armed?

The US having more guns in private hands than we do people is WAR crazy.

The Second Amendment does not say a person has a right to an AK-15 WAR gun.
The essence of the 2nd Amendment is protection of oneself NOT the wonton taking of lives for the profit for the capitalist class.

Until the profit motive of killing our countries children is stopped, we will have one school shooting after another.

Ask any parent who lost a child, a 1st grader, a 2nd grader or 3rd grader what the easy solution is.

In the movie, "Till" there is a great lesson. The lesson is that until people start seeing open caskets of people, especially young children, dead way to early by an AR-15 will the horror of a country armed to the teeth sink in.

Thomas Paine. The solution is to take the AR-15 and other WAR guns off the streets.

Make them illegal to own - it's that simple. And anyone who is found to own one needs to go on trial and prosecuted for intent to kill.

Less guns, less dead people.

Thomas Paine. It's that simple.

First my condolences to the family and friends. It's so sad that something like this happens. But it happens all the time. I don't know what the answer is. I am the father of a high school student. My wife and I are over protective. He plays basketball at the community center that is next to us. I go with him and sit in the gym while he plays. Can he walk over there by himself sure. Do I trust him. of course. i don't trust everyone else. It's a shame that it is like this. My sister lives in a nice town in Connecticut, she has daughters in high school. they can go out by themselves and she feels comfortable. I don't in New Haven. the summer time my son likes to go to the park up the street to play ball. Guess who goes with him. Maybe I am overprotective. There are to many shootings here. To Many lives are being destroyed by all of this violence.

Our hearts break for this family. The families in NHPD District 2 are not safe waiting at the bus stop, or even bike riding to get a snack. There’s now a marijuana superstore in front of the basketball court the high school kids used in this neighborhood. There are 9 addictive substance stores that have overrun almost every inch of our retail space. The clients from the hotels by the highway have been shaking down neighborhood kids for the last 3 years. WAKE UP! Your kids and your neighbors would not do better under these circumstances. STOP BLAMING THE KIDS!! Adults put a pot superstore and 9 addictive substance shops in front of our basketball court and around the corner from the schools.