How Wendy’s Came To Whalley

Thomas Breen photosA new restaurant has opened on Whalley Avenue. No officials cut a ribbon to launch it. No jubilant developer hired a p.r. firm to celebrate a multimillion-dollar private investment, the creation of dozens of jobs, and a boost to the city’s tax rolls.

But New Haveners have been showing up to come to buy hamburgers, fries, and milkshakes.

The story of how one humble chain restaurant quietly came into New Haven, while just as relevant as highly publicized store openings to the city’s bottom line, reveals how multi-million-dollar decisions affecting our economy are sometimes made: In this case, because of expansion plans of a Michigan company as well as the need for New York real-estate investors to dump some cash because of an exemption buried in the federal tax code.

The new restaurant is Wendy’s. It’s just the latest fast food franchise to open on a a stretch of Whalley Avenue dotted with national chain outletss serving up cheap, often unhealthy eats.

On Dec. 30, 2018, the Wendy’s opened at 67-81 Whalley Ave. The 0.61 acre lot formerly housed a vacant one-story building and parking lot, formerly the home of a Midas auto-repair facility.

The Wendy’s sits on a half-mile stretch of Whalley Avenue already teeming with fast food restaurants. There’s a Popeye’s Louisiana Kitchen at the corner of Dwight Street, a Papa John’s Pizza near the corner of Webster Street, a Burger King and a Subway near the corner of Orchard Street, a Kentucky Fried Chick near the corner of Sherman Avenue, and a McDonald’s right across the street next to the Stop & Shop.

Ana Pelhank, a project engineer with the restaurant’s Michigan-based developer Meritage Hospitality Group, said her company decided to build out a new Wendy’s on the vacant Whalley lot between Dwight and Webster as part of its recent expansion in the state of Connecticut.

“We recently bought a bunch of other Wendy’s in the state of Connecticut,” Pelhank told the Independent. “We’re new to the Connecticut market, but now that we’re in this market, we’re looking for new location. Our real estate team found this property.”

Meritage is a fast food restaurant development and management company based out of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Pelhank said the company currently operates 309 restaurants in 16 states. Most of those restaurant’s are Wendy’s. Its website says that Meritage’s restaurants employee more than 9,400 people.

Meritage first started gathering city administrative approvals for the new restaurant in June 2018, when it worked with the Meriden-based architecture company BL Companies to receive a special exception from the city’s Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) to build a drive-in restaurant located less than 250 feet from a residential use in a BB (automobile sales) zone. The BZA granted the special exception on the condition that the developers build a fence along the property’s western boundary per the neighboring property owner’s request.

At that time, the vacant Whalley Avenue property was stilled owned by Providence, Rhode Island-based developer Eugene Goldstein through his holding company 67 Whalley Avenue LLC. Matthew Bruton of BL Companies submitted the special exception application on behalf of the applicant Inspired by Opportunity LLC, a holding company owned by the Michigan-based Meritage, as well as on behalf of the landlord, 67 Whalley Avenue LLC.

On July 18, Meritage received its next, and final, administrative approval before going ahead with the actual purchase of the property and subsequent development.

On that date, the City Plan Commission (CPC) signed off on the project’s site, as presented by BL Companies’ Bruton, again working on behalf of the applicant Inspired by Opportunity LLC and the landlord 67 Whalley Avenue LLC.

“I’d like to put all of my support and the community’s support behind this Wendy’s project,” Dwight Alder Frank Douglass told the commission at that July meeting.

Step 1: Getting It Built

BL Companies photoThe commission approved the development of the 2,170 square-foot restaurant and drive-thru along with its 22 paved parking spaces. The developers promised in their application to install concrete sidewalks and a subsurface stormwater detention system, and to drop the site’s impervious ratio from 98 percent to 72 percent.

After getting the necessary BZA and CPC approvals, another holding company owned by the Michgan-based Meritage, this one called Restaurant Holdings LLC, purchased the property at 67-81 Whalley Ave. for $850,000.

“We started pretty much right away,” Pelhank said about construction of the new Wendy’s. “We started that the end of August, and our construction was finished int he middle of December.” The store opened on Dec. 30.

Pelhank estimated that the entire construction and development of the site cost roughly $1.6 million to complete. She said the new restaurant employs around 30 people.

She also said that the building’s design is brand new to the Wendy’s franchise. Only one other Wendy’s that Meritage operates in Michigan has this same design, she said, which is tiered, with wooden slates and glass paneling, and is a little less boxy than the standard design.

Step 2: Flip, Reinvest

Thomas Breen photosJust a week after the restaurant opened, Meritage sold the developed property for $3.1 million to a New York City-based real estate investment company that specializes in upscale multifamily apartment complexes on the Upper East Side.

On Jan. 7, 2019, Meritage’s Restaurant Holdings LLC sold the 67-81 Whalley Ave. property to GPG New Haven LLC, a holding company owned by New York developers Randy and Jason Glick.

Then on Jan. 16, GPG New Haven signed a 20-year lease with Meritage’s Inspired by Opportunity LLC. The lease runs through Jan. 31, 2029, and grants the Michigan-based fast food operator five consecutive five-year options to extend the initial term of the lease.

“This is very typical of us,” Pelhank said. “We usually buy a property, build it out how we want it, then we sell it and try to build more restaurants” or do renovations to existing properties with the proceeds.

Jason Glick, one of the owners of GPG (or Glick Property Group), said that investing in fast food restaurants is not his company’s usual business. Rather, GPG bought the Wendy’s property to fulfill an investment requirement necessary to avoid having to pay capital gains tax on a $232 million worth of mostly vacant buildings on the Upper East Side that the investors sold in August 2018 to make way for a new medical complex.

An IRS loophole called a 1031 exchange allows real estate investors like GPG to defer paying taxes on capital gains, that is, on when they sell investment properties, so long as they use the proceeds from that sale to buy up new investment properties within 180 days of the sale.

“We very much like the location relative to Yale,” Glick said about why they chose this particular Wendy’s out of all the potential properties they could have bought to satisfy the 1031 exchange. “The triple-net business is not our typical business. But this fit our particular requirements.”

“Wendy’s Is Good Food”

At the new Wendy’s on Tuesday, customers and employees alike praised the new fast food joint for providing both tasty chicken nuggets and jobs for locals at an easily accessible location.

“I am so happy they put this here,” said Naila Smalls, who picked up a Junior Bacon Burger and 10 chicken nuggets with her mom, Wenona Hollby.

“Wendy’s is good food,” said Hollby. “They use real chicken.”

Ron Gowie agreed as he finished up his 10-nugget meal and unlocked his bike from the rack in front of the store.

“It’s a good thing for the community,” he said about the new Wendy’s. He praised it for bringing more jobs to that stretch of Whalley, and for being right off the 243 bus line.

Inside the store, store manager Ory Sharpe and crew member Jessie Garrett said that the new location has 44 employees.

“We add employment to the community,” said Sharpe.

Garrett said she moved from the Wendy’s in Derby to work at the one in New Haven. She has worked for the franchise for 14 years. “The crew,” she said in response to what she likes most about Wendy’s. “The managers. And the food.”

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posted by: tmctague on February 5, 2019  9:08pm

You didn’t mention how jarring the experience can be for anyone younger than 20 – a stark front counter with no menu in sight, you humiliate yourself with an awkward determination until a friendly guides you to the computer screens for ordering food.  I’ll go ahead and say they do not accept cash, though I know it’s not true.  They are too sexy and modern for 20th century currency.  The food is obviously eaten with a deep sense of self-loathing that lingers as long as your gastrointestinal issues.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 5, 2019  9:35pm

Ron Gowie agreed as he finished up his 10-nugget meal and unlocked his bike from the rack in front of the store.

“It’s a good thing for the community,” he said about the new Wendy’s. He praised it for bringing more jobs to that stretch of Whalley, and for being right off the 243 bus line.

Death Burgers.Go Vegan!!! This food is killing people of color.

BMI of Low Income Blacks Linked to Fast Food Restaurant Proximity

African American adults living closer to a fast food restaurant had a higher BMI than those who lived further away from fast food, according to researchers at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, and this association was particularly strong among those with a lower income.A new study published online in the American Journal of Public Health indicates higher BMI associates with residential proximity to a fast food restaurant, and among lower-income African Americans, the density, or number, of fast food restaurants within two miles of the home.The study was led by Lorraine Reitzel, PhD, an assistant professor in the department of health disparities research at MD Anderson. Data were collected from a large sample of more than 1,400 black adult participants from the Project CHURCH research study, a collaboration between MD Anderson and Windsor Village United Methodist Church in Houston. “According to prior research, African Americans, particularly women, have higher rates of obesity than other ethnic groups, and the gap is growing,” says Reitzel. “The results of this study add to the literature indicating that a person’s neighborhood environment and the foods that they’re exposed to can contribute to a higher BMI.”

https://www.todaysdietitian.com/news/070313_news.shtml

Part One.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 5, 2019  9:44pm

Part two.

How the fast-food industry courted African American customers
Decades later, the fast-food industry has seen a severe decline in popularity in the United States. But black customers remain as important to the industry’s bottom line as ever before. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, from 2013 to 2014 African Americans over the age of 2 derived 20 percent of their food energy from fast food, compared with just 15 percent for whites and 16 percent for Hispanics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/06/11/the-origins-of-fast-foods-enduring-popularity-with-african-americans/

I heard this is the Next Burger Joint that will be in New Haven.

The Heart Attack Grill: Restaurant Promotes Harmfully Unhealthy Food | Nightline | ABC News

https://youtu.be/hqf_SIQ3JAk

posted by: Bill Saunders on February 5, 2019  9:46pm

It is interesting to me that I am basically equidistant from the New Wendy’s and the New Five-Star Boutique Hotel.

As I have mentioned before, I have been excited about this new local Wendy’s.

One night, I was gushing over ‘it’, still not a ‘client’, and the person I was gabbing with said ‘Yeah, they must be popular.  There is always a line out the door’.

When I went to visit for my first time, I found out why.

There were three touch screens to order from as soon as you entered the door.  You could pay by credit card, but if you couldn’t, a ‘person’ had to leave the counter to take your money.

Not much seating, big open kitchen.

No wonder there is a line out the door!  It starts when you enter!!!!!!!!

Wendy’s either wasn’t planning for pedestrian traffic, or hired underpaid high-schoolers to design how ‘customers should flow through the space given the ‘new corporate restraints’. 

Sensitive to the ‘drive throughers’, insulting to the ‘regular folks’.
It’s the ‘new model’.

Waiting for the Robots…...  the people that sat down and paid by credit card were Yalies.

posted by: Dennis Serf on February 6, 2019  2:42am

Wendy’s offers a great deal for ice cream lovers. Buy a $2.00 key tag and get a FREE Junior Frosty with any purchase for an entire year. Wendy’s donates 85% of the $2.00 to the Dave Thomas Charity for Adoptions.

posted by: Ryn111 on February 6, 2019  7:04am

Those damn Yalies and their fancy never frozen burgers!

posted by: HewNaven on February 6, 2019  9:39am

I went in there to order my gallon of frozen sugar and 24-pieces of fried pink slime…. and there were NO under-paid workers to take my order. I had to talk to a robot. And it only accepted fiat currency! Outrageous!!

posted by: KateW on February 6, 2019  10:20am

Everything about the new Wendy’s makes me sick.  While Frank Douglas, my Alderman, thinks its just fine, great in fact, I agree with Threefifths entirely.  The last thing we need in my neighborhood is another fast food joint.  Beyond the health consequences of eating that crap - i.e. virtually every metabolic disorder known to humans - heart disease, diabetes, kidney disease, high blood pressure, and cancer etc. - Wendy’s is ugly.  The stupid looking girl with her pock marked face now adorn the street along with the plethora of her image now lining Whalley Avenue as bags of litter from Wendy’s make their way onto the curbs and storm drains.  It is so unenlightened, so unnecessary, so blatantly appealing to the basest of impulses, with no acknowledgement that this kind of establishment does nothing but make remote investors millions of dollars while killing the people who eat the crap, increasing health care costs while they succumb, perpetuating ignorance, and putting a pittance of money into a handful of unwitting death purveyors, while downgrading the neighborhood.  I think you can tell that I am not a fan.  My objections when this came before the management team fell on deaf ears.  Reason is dead, long live reason….

posted by: observer1 on February 6, 2019  11:02am

I am a diabetic who has had a heart attack. There is also a well documented history of vascular disease in my family. I love hamburgers, steaks, ice cream and peanut butter cups. I am also smart enough not to even keep that stuff in the house because I have zero will power. I am not a total nut about it though. I allow myself one very good and juicy hamburger a month, but no fries washed down by water. The rest of the time I consume egg whites, turkey or chicken made multiple low fat ways, and a lot of veggies. I keep my weight down and look pretty good for an older person. My doctor likes my numbers and asks how I do it. I tell him it is real simple. If it tastes good or you really want to eat something, don’t. Not a fun way to live, but it is fun being with my kids and grand kids. We all have choices. I choose to not commit slow suicide by eating a high fat diet. Low fat meat, vegetables, beans and rice even have the benefit of being less expensive. Nice to have all the fast food places around, but a longer life is a better choice for me.

posted by: 1644 on February 6, 2019  12:12pm

KateW:  Wendy’s, and all the other fast food places are only there because your neighbors patronize them.  Likewise, I suspect the litter is also primarily from your neighbors tossing their trash out rather than bring it home with them for proper disposal.
  BTW,  those are freckles, not pockmarks.  Unsightly freckles, like skin cancer, are one of the components of white privilege.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 6, 2019  12:19pm

posted by: observer1 on February 6, 2019 11:02am

I am a diabetic who has had a heart attack. There is also a well documented history of vascular disease in my family. I love hamburgers, steaks, ice cream and peanut butter cups. I am also smart enough not to even keep that stuff in the house because I have zero will power. I am not a total nut about it though. I allow myself one very good and juicy hamburger a month.

She did the same thing and look what happen to her.

The Burger That Shattered Her Life.

Stephanie Smith, a children’s dance instructor, thought she had a stomach virus. The aches and cramping were tolerable that first day, and she finished her classes.Then her diarrhea turned bloody. Her kidneys shut down. Seizures knocked her unconscious. The convulsions grew so relentless that doctors had to put her in a coma for nine weeks. When she emerged, she could no longer walk. The affliction had ravaged her nervous system and left her paralyzed.Ms. Smith, 22, was found to have a severe form of food-borne illness caused by E. coli, which Minnesota officials traced to the hamburger that her mother had grilled for their Sunday dinner in early fall 2007.“I ask myself every day, ‘Why me?’ and ‘Why from a hamburger?’ ”Ms. Smith said. In the simplest terms, she ran out of luck in a food-safety game of chance whose rules and risks are not widely known.

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/health/04meat.html

And Soul Food is just as Bad.

Soul Food is Killing Black People

https://youtu.be/1bhsw150fs0

posted by: DrFeelgood on February 6, 2019  1:49pm

Out of all the fast food places, Wendy’s is the best.  Taco Bell is a close 2nd.  Just don’t eat there more than once a month!

posted by: 1644 on February 6, 2019  2:10pm

3/5’s E. coli can be present in many things, including “healthy” foods like romaine lettuce.
https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2018/o157h7-11-18/index.html
When I was growing up, my father found e. coli. in our well water, the result of contamination from neighbors’ septic systems.  To my knowledge, it never did us any harm, although my family did switch to city water, which wasn’t available when the house was built and the well drilled.

posted by: tmctague on February 6, 2019  2:25pm

1644:
“Unsightly freckles, like skin cancer, are one of the components of white privilege.”

This reply seems to promote some disingenuous melancholy toward the idea of White privilege.  On top of it, you criticize residents that happen to live in a predominantly Black neighborhood, twice, without expressing any consideration of numerous factors that contribute to this situation. 

Side note:
Using “blacks” and “whites” (lower case) sees race as a fact of nature, like “cats” and “dogs”, while using “Blacks” and “Whites” (upper case) sees them as a fact of history, like “Germans” and “Jews”.  It sees race as a social construction.
-abagond

posted by: 1644 on February 6, 2019  3:00pm

tact:  The amount of pigment we have in our skin is a fact of nature, the result of our genes.  White people’s ancestors traded protection from the sun for efficiency in vitamin D production. This trade was advantageous because those ancestors had relocated from Africa to cooler climates, less sunny climates, meaning less skin was exposed, and that which was needed to be more efficient in vitamin D production.
https://www.nasw.org/article/vitamin-d-levels-determined-how-human-skin-color-evolved
As for what you perceive as criticism, I believe are simple statements of fact.  It’s disrespectful to say of Wendy’s customers, of whatever pigment they might be, that they are incapable of choosing what to eat, and where they place their trash.  BTW, there’s plenty of roadside trash, often from fast food places, in white suburbs.  But nowhere is Wendy’s forcing people to eat there, nor to litter.  Those are decisions people make of their own free-will.

posted by: Bill Saunders on February 6, 2019  4:28pm

Dr. Feelgood,

Interesting that your fast-food recommendation of ‘one serving per month’ is the same recommendation that the EPA has for fish caught in Long Island Sound! 

Moderation is always good with this stuff, unless it is NH Pizza. 

Craving Satisfied!

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 6, 2019  5:46pm

posted by: 1644 on February 6, 2019 2:10pm

3/5’s E. coli can be present in many things, including “healthy” foods like romaine lettuce.
https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2018/o157h7-11-18/index.html

But they injecting beef with ammonia.

Safety of Beef Processing Method Is Questioned
Eight years ago, federal officials were struggling to remove potentially deadly E. coli from hamburgers when an entrepreneurial company from South Dakota came up with a novel idea: injecting beef with ammonia.

The company, Beef Products Inc., had been looking to expand into the hamburger business with a product made from beef that included fatty trimmings the industry once relegated to pet food and cooking oil. The trimmings were particularly susceptible to contamination, but a study commissioned by the company showed that the ammonia process would kill E. coli as well as salmonella.

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html

Bacon as a Weapon of Mass Destruction

Jon Stewart described as “for people who want to get heart disease but [are] too lazy to actually make bacon”; Wendy’s “Baconnator,” six strips of bacon mounded atop a half-pound cheeseburger, which sold 25 million in its first eight weeks; and the outlandish bacon explosion, a barbecued meat brick composed of two pounds of bacon wrapped around two pounds of sausage.It’s easy to dismiss this gonzo gastronomy as typical American excess best followed with a Lipitor chaser.To that end, writes Kessler in The End of Overeating, the food industry has homed in on the “three points of the compass” — fat, salt and sugar.One anonymous food-industry executive told Kessler, “Higher sugar, fat and salt make you want to eat more.” The executive admitted food is designed to be “highly hedonic,” and that the food industry is “the manipulator of the consumers’ minds and desires.”

https://indypendent.org/2009/07/bacon-as-a-weapon-of-mass-destruction/

Part One.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 6, 2019  6:14pm

Part Two

posted by: 1644 on February 6, 2019 3:00pm

It’s disrespectful to say of Wendy’s customers, of whatever pigment they might be, that they are incapable of choosing what to eat, and where they place their trash.  BTW, there’s plenty of roadside trash, often from fast food places, in white suburbs.  But nowhere is Wendy’s forcing people to eat there, nor to litter.  Those are decisions people make of their own free-will.

Their financial circumstances forced them to eat fast foods.look at the Food Coupons.Two for a dollar.

Wendy’s Jr. Hamburger

240Calories
Per Serving

Wendy’s Dave’s Triple

Nutrition
1090
Calories
3g
Fiber
71g
Protein
72g
Fat

Allergens

Egg

Milk

Soy

Wheat

Every see the move Forks Over Knives - Official Trailer

https://youtu.be/O7ijukNzlUg

WHAT THE HEALTH Trailer

https://youtu.be/Jf44vLndiRM

Why Meat Is Bad For You- In 60 Seconds

https://youtu.be/WHdfeR8dfJo

Notice how Wendy’s In India does not use Beef?

It was a simple yet clever American advertisement, an elderly woman peeking into her hamburger and asking, “Where’s the beef?”Now, the company behind that ‘80s catchphrase – fast-food chain Wendy’s – finds itself in a fix over the answer.The burger joint has decided to drop beef from the menu for the first time ever. It will not serve the standard Dave’s Hot ‘n Juicy Triple or any other burgers with beef when it opens its first Indian outlet in a Delhi suburb on Wednesday.Instead, Wendy’s has crafted a new menu for India’s largely-vegetarian consumers, ranging from spinach-and-corn burgers to the standard potato patty burger found at most fast-food chains here.

https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/05/01/wendys-is-landing-in-india-but-wheres-the-beef/

Go vegan!!!!

posted by: Stylo on February 6, 2019  7:39pm

3/5th

Most E. coli cases originate from produce.

Plus the meat = heart disease argument is a dated thought from the 90’s when the low fat, high sugar diets reigned supreme and helped usher in the modern obesity age.

It’s excess sugars and carbs that are causing heart disease, obesity, and diabetes.

You can see this when people go on a low carb/no sugar diet and lose a ton of weight.

Vegans may see weight loss as they tend to change their diet to less processed foods. It has nothing to do with not eating animal products.

I do agree that the mainstream meat industry is awful, and not good for the environment. That’s why I vote with my money and get my animal proteins from more humane sources. At the end of the day, we are omnivores and have very limited scientific knowledge about the long term effects of a vegan only diet.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 6, 2019  8:23pm

posted by: Stylo on February 6, 2019 7:39pm

3/5th

Plus the meat = heart disease argument is a dated thought from the 90’s when the low fat, high sugar diets reigned supreme and helped usher in the modern obesity age.

Well here is the Up date.8 Reasons Meat Is Bad For You (Yes, Even Chicken)

The World Health Organization made headlines last year when it declared processed meat a “carcinogen” that increases your risk of colon or rectum cancer by 18 percent. But it’s not just processed meat that poses a health risk — science has known for a while that eating all kinds of animals, including “white meat,” is bad for you. Like, really bad.I myself had a vague idea that eating too much meat wasn’t great for my health, but since I used to only eat “a little” meat, and usually organic at that, I sort of thought of myself as exempt. Well, not so much. While cutting back on your meat consumption in any form is a great step to take, the fact remains that eating any meat — hormone-free or not — poses several serious long-term risks to your health. It’s worth knowing exactly what the health risks of eating meat are, so that you can make an informed decision for yourself about how much of a risk you feel it’s necessary to take by continuing to consume animals.

1. It Signifigantly Increases Your Risk Of Cancer

Large studies in England and Germany showed that vegetarians were about 40 percent less likely to develop cancer compared to meat-eaters,

2. It Increases Your Risk Of Heart Disease And Diabetes

This is the reason Bill Clinton went vegan. Meat, dairy products, and eggs all contain cholesterol and saturated fat and contribute to America’s top killers: heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, and various types of cancer. Decades of scientific study have linked dietary cholesterol to cardiovascular disease — our country’s number-one cause of death, killing nearly 2,200 Americans daily.

Part One.

posted by: Bill Saunders on February 6, 2019  8:28pm

3/5th’s

I had the Baconator! 
I’m going to get Donald Trump to cater my Funeral, just no Football Players!

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 6, 2019  8:30pm

Part Two.

3. Eating Meat Makes It Harder To Maintain A Healthy Body Weight

if you are looking to maintain a lower BMI for your health, it is worth knowing that meat-eaters are three times more likely to be obese than vegetarians.

4.Meat Carries The Highest Risk Of Foodborne Illness
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) reports that 70 percent of food poisoning is caused by contaminated animal flesh. Foodborne diseases, such as E. Coli, Salmonella, and Campylobacter, cause an estimated 76 million illnesses, 325,000 hospitalizations, and 5,000 deaths in the United States each year.Eating meat puts you at a greater risk for food poisoning because animal products are often tainted with fecal contamination during slaughter or processing

5. It Might Contribute To Erectile Dysfunction In Men
Meat, eggs, and dairy products slow the flow of blood to all the body’s organs — and not just the heart. Originally, it was thought that impotence was caused only by anxiety, but according to the Erectile Dysfunction Institute, up to 90 percent of all cases of impotence are actually physical as opposed to psychological, meaning the high cholesterol, obesity, diabetes, prostate cancer or inflammations, and hormonal imbalances that eating meat causes might also contribute to impotence.

6. Most Meat Has Hormones In It
To make cows grow at an unnaturally fast rate, the cattle industry feeds them pellets full of hormones.

7. It May Make You Resistant To Antibiotics

Factory farms are breeding grounds for antibiotic-resistant bacteria, known as “supergerms.”

8. It Increases Your Risk Of Death
In large part because of all the health risks mentioned above, meat eaters just don’t live as long as vegetarians and vegans

https://www.bustle.com/articles/137865-8-reasons-meat-is-bad-for-you-yes-even-chicken

Go Vegan!!!!!

posted by: Stylo on February 6, 2019  9:12pm

3/5th

Spare me the pseudo science. Of course processed meat is bad for you. So are processed plant based foods.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 6, 2019  10:18pm

posted by: Stylo on February 6, 2019 9:12pm
3/5th

Spare me the pseudo science. Of course processed meat is bad for you. So are processed plant based foods.

And that is why I only eat plant based foods.You point?In fact names some processed plant based foods.Far as I know there is no processed plant based foods.

posted by: 1644 on February 7, 2019  6:58am

Regardless of what we eat, we all have precisely the same risk of death:  100%.
So, eat what you want, and let others make their own choices.  As Dan Daly said,. “[D]o you want to live forever?”

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 7, 2019  8:52am

posted by: 1644 on February 7, 2019 6:58am
Regardless of what we eat, we all have precisely the same risk of death:  100%.
So, eat what you want, and let others make their own choices.  As Dan Daly said,. “[D]o you want to live forever?”

But some foods will speed your death faster.

posted by: NewHaven18 on February 7, 2019  9:49am

@3/5s

You’re kidding, right? Flour and corn syrup are probably the most abundant processed ingredients in any grocery store item. Both of which are vegan.

posted by: Stylo on February 7, 2019  12:14pm

@NewHaven18

Exactly. On a calorie-by-calorie basis, plant based processed foods are BY FAR the most abundant in the standard American diet (SAD). High fructose corn syrup, white flour, soybean oil, canola oil, hydrolyzed wheat/soy protein, I could go on. All linked to health problems, and all plant based. Remember in the 90’s when people thought margarine was more healthy than butter? Well, that’s been proven wrong. So has the incorrect correlation between dietary cholesterol (eggs) and health problems.

posted by: HewNaven on February 7, 2019  12:38pm

I tend to agree with Michael Pollan. Diet is less about fundamentalism and zealotry and more about moderation and common sense: Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

Hard-core vegetarians complain about the “-ly” in the rule “mostly plants.” So be it: Pollan isn’t dogmatic. He urges us to eat less meat, and better-raised meat. But he doesn’t insist that we give it up entirely.

He ends his book with Rule 64: “Break the rules once in a while.” Decades of obsessing about nutrition — eating low-fat this and low-carb that, drinking sugar-free sodas and vitamin-enhanced water — haven’t made us thinner or healthier.

https://michaelpollan.com/reviews/how-to-eat/

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 7, 2019  4:13pm

posted by: NewHaven18 on February 7, 2019 9:49am

@3/5s

You’re kidding, right? Flour and corn syrup are probably the most abundant processed ingredients in any grocery store item. Both of which are vegan.

Where did I say I use Flour and corn syrup?

posted by: Stylo on February 7, 2019 12:14pm

@NewHaven18

Exactly. On a calorie-by-calorie basis, plant based processed foods are BY FAR the most abundant in the standard American diet (SAD). High fructose corn syrup, white flour, soybean oil, canola oil, hydrolyzed wheat/soy protein, I could go on. All linked to health problems, and all plant based. Remember in the 90’s when people thought margarine was more healthy than butter? Well, that’s been proven wrong. So has the incorrect correlation between dietary cholesterol (eggs) and health problems.

I do not eat or use High fructose corn syrup, white flour, soybean oil, canola oil, hydrolyzed wheat/soy protein.I eat no eggs or any Dairy.

posted by: HewNaven on February 7, 2019 12:38pm

I tend to agree with Michael Pollan. Diet is less about fundamentalism and zealotry and more about moderation and common sense: Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

I follow some of the Rastafari, Ital diet.Some of the Dick Gregory diet and Dr Sebi’s diet.

I also get food from here.It is call Shandals

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g33726-d4139353-r282625804-Shandal_s_Vegetarian_Cafe-Bridgeport_Connecticut.html#photos;geo=33726&detail=4139353&aggregationId=101

@Stylo and NewHaven18.Are you saying fast foods are good for the Body?

posted by: Stylo on February 7, 2019  4:34pm

@Stylo and NewHaven18.Are you saying fast foods are good for the Body?

No, I think you may have reading comprehension issues.

The point is most processed foods are not great for you, whether animal or plant based. Simply being vegan doesn’t make you healthy. You can drink liters of Coke all day and still be vegan, and develop diabetes and heart disease.

Whole foods, whether animal or plant based, are the healthiest way of eating.

Vegans like yourself often tend to paint with a very broad brush with little understanding of the science of nutrition.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on February 7, 2019  9:48pm

posted by: Stylo on February 7, 2019 4:34pm

@Stylo and NewHaven18.Are you saying fast foods are good for the Body?

No, I think you may have reading comprehension issues.

The point is most processed foods are not great for you, whether animal or plant based. Simply being vegan doesn’t make you healthy. You can drink liters of Coke all day and still be vegan, and develop diabetes and heart disease.

Whole foods, whether animal or plant based, are the healthiest way of eating.

Vegans like yourself often tend to paint with a very broad brush with little understanding of the science of nutrition.


I do not have a reading comprehension issues.Like I said I eat no type of processed foods.You keep saying plant based.processed foods.What are plant base processed foods ?Also I will be Juicing as my meal.Look at what happen in India when the started eating fried and processed foods.

Modern Ways Open India’s Doors to Diabetes

A taste for sweets, like those in this bakery, and the growing popularity of fried and processed foods are contributing to diabetes in India.

Her husband, K. Palayam, had diabetes do its corrosive job on him: ulcers bore into both feet and cost him a leg. To pay for his care in a country where health insurance is rare, P. Ganam sold all her cherished jewelry — gold, as she saw it, swapped for life.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/13/world/asia/13diabetes.html

Why the Western Diet Keeps Making Us Sick

Following the typical Western diet increases the risk of chronic illness and early death. Here’s why changing the way you eat may help you live a longer, healthier life.

https://www.everydayhealth.com/crohns-disease/diet/why-western-diet-making-us-sick/

Do you know what soul Food means which is killing Black people.

S=Salt
O=OIL
U=Undertaker
L=Lard
F=Fat
O=Oill
O=Oil
D=Death

Keep on eating.Go Vegan!!!!!

posted by: Sabrina-in-NewHaven on February 13, 2019  1:57pm

As a kid, Wendy’s was always way more expensive than McD’s and a real treat when you got to go. I loved the fixin’s bar and those huge baked potatoes. I can not remember the last time I ate at a Wendy’s since moving back to the 70s…I mean to New Haven. In NYC they are also a dying breed.

It is a welcome sign for me because vacant lots mean a community isn’t growing. I’d much rather see a small business center or a building with affordable housing. But if this place means more jobs, then so be it.  Most of these fast food places do a poor job of training their staff on how to deal with the public. I can’t stand waitstaff who mumble, don’t address you directly or are too busy gossiping and whatnot. I just want my food with a courteous smile. Is that too much to ask for? And I like kiosks.AND It’s not just Yalies who use credit cards. I will be one of “those people” doing the same thing when I finally take a break and visit the place.

It is not Wendy’s fault if people are still attached to paper currency. Grow up!