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Kimber: Carolina “Disrespects Womanhood”
by Paul Bass | Aug 21, 2013 7:43 am
Posted to: Schools, Newhallville, Campaign 2013
Supporters of Toni Harp’s mayoral candidacy gathered for a last look at some historic African-American portraits—and took aim at a new not-so-flattering one.
The supporters showed up Tuesday afternoon outside the old Martin Luther King School on Dixwell Avenue.
The Achievement First charter-school organization plans to demolish the main wing of MLK—including its iconic mural with portraits of Dr. King, Maya Angelou, Arthur Ashe, Stevie Wonder, Oprah Winfrey, Dr. Benjamin Carson, among others—on Wednesday to make way for a new home for Amistad High School. (MLK is expected to return, along with President Obama, in a new mural at the new school.)
Harp’s supporters noted that this weekend marks the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, at which King delivered his famous “I Have A Dream” speech. They paid homage to King’s legacy as well as to the legacy of the Amistad affair after which the new school will be named—the slave-ship revolt that led to an historic civil rights trial in New Haven.
The Rev. Boise Kimber also brought up a brand new portrait drawn of a leading African-American—a cartoon circulated by the mayoral campaign of Kermit Carolina. This one wasn’t flattering. (It’s shown above.) Carolina, Harp, Henry Fernandez, and Justin Elicker are competing in a Sept. 10 Democratic mayoral primary.
“The people who are trying to degrade her with cartoons—they got a mama too,” Kimber said. “How would they like [someone] to plaster their mama on a poster” maligning her and “her dead husband”?
“We can’t join hands with anyone who disrespects womanhood,” Kimber continued. “Black women have been disrespected enough. In 2013, we must hold our black women up.”
Kimber (pictured) added that “if anybody says anything negative about our candidate, don’t you say nothing negative about them. Just look at them like they crazy.”
His remarks elicited murmurs of assent and nods of agreement from the dozens of Harp supporters crowded on the sidewalk by the fence blocking off the school construction site.
Contacted later, Carolina defended the cartoon, which criticizes Harp’s family’s real-estate business’s record as landlords, as truthful.
“Everything within in the political arena is fair game, and she chose to join. Every leader should be held to a high standard, regardless of their race, sex or age,” he argued.
“Their comments make the point of the cartoon, which is that Toni Harp is an elitist who has been spoiled into believing that she is above the people and above criticism. The cartoon also raises the point that she’s out of touch with New Haven voters and she’s only here to serve the interests of the political establishment at the state Capitol and the suburban union leadership of UNITE HERE. Furthermore, many of the people she has chosen to surround herself with and promised gifts to are the same self-serving individuals who helped to create the problems that currently exist in our city. We need a clean break from these types of individuals.”
Carolina “challenged all news media outlets” to focus on his “plan to improve the city” rather than provide “mainstream exposure” to his campaign only “when I’m in disagreement with Sen. Harp.”
Tags: Achievement First, Martin Luther King, Toni Harp, Boise Kimber, Delphine Clyburn, Brenda Foskey-Cyrus, Candace Dorman
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Kimber: Carolina “Disrespects Womanhood”
For real.He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.Give me a break.
How about when we disrespect the dead.
STATE v. KIMBER
STATE of Connecticut v. Boise KIMBER.
Candace Dorman of Achievement First said students would begin attending the new school in Dec. 2014.
Is this the same Achievement First that has astronomical suspension rates that suspend kindergarteners at rates up to 15 times higher than in neighboring public schools.
Kermit you are so full of yourself, you have no proof of anyone being promise anything. I am a supported because I think Senator Harp has proven that she is a true leader and can bring all people together not just the hub of the black community. You say focus on your plan we are still waiting for your plan, as of this writing you have not talk about the issues and what you will bring to the table. You have however, at every turn attack the only women in the race. You have not attack the other two, but maybe you are with the other two and you all are one, and if this is the case then you are doing what you have been charged to do. You are a poor example of a principle and if my children were attending Hill House High School I would be calling for your resignation. Who are you to throw stones; you have allegedly been accused of causing a child to lose his scholarship because you allegedly decided to change his grades. And may I remind you when you were supporting Kerekes run for Mayor of New Haven you along with Jefferson and Highsmith were accusing Dawson and Clifton of splitting the vote and not uniting together, interesting enough you are doing the same thing, the only difference in this race is you are attacking this candidate.
Science and hostory have proven time and again that no race or gender is inherently more qualified for leadership. Drop it. Something with substance please.
“Disrespecting” a certain individual does not equate to disrespecting womanhood.
I find all this quite divisive and distracting.
The political cartoon at best shows a bit of creative political satire. Good use of time and energy? eh? Who knows?
Name calling is dull and uninteresting…. doesn’t add to the substance of the campaigns. Those that dig Senator Hart will move her forward. Those that like other candidates will do their jobs to move them forward. We already know the limits of some of these candidates and their campaigns. Some will not appeal to anyone beyond where they are most popular.
What will win this mayoral campaign will be mass appeal… the candidate who can speak to all of New Haven’s citizens regardless of race and gender. The candidate that will win will have concerns about all citizens across all economic lines and that translates into neighborhoods. The citizens of New Haven will elect a Mayor they are comfortable with, who they feel best identifies with their concerns and issues. A person who will exercise diplomacy and reserve and will be equally confident in making hard choices and decisions.
No one is without missteps, and shortcomings. Each candidate has dropped the ball a time or two in their professional and personal lives. New Haven citizens aren’t looking for perfection, they are not looking for the candidate that can talk the fastest saying anything.
We want someone who will get into office and run this city with a fair, intelligent, transparent team of equally committed folks.
All this noise about race and gender is limited to those who are easily manipulated by the ridiculousness of it all.
So as long as the weapons of mass distraction are deployed, the real issues will go with real attention and discussion. Soundbites aren’t answers. Slinging insults is not a working plan of action.
We must refuse to get drawn into petty, small, inconsequential debates over personalities, slick innuendos and character assassinations.
It maybe inconvenient for Mrs. Harp but there is nothing inappropriate in that cartoon.
Like having Gov. Malloy, and Bob Proto, endorse here wasn’t enough now we get Boise Kimber too. How many reasons is she going to give me NOT to vote for her?
On one hand, the cartoon is kind of right, remember Harp’s trip to NewHallville where she was absolutely shocked at what the conditions were like? You live 3-4 miles away, have you never once gone down Dixwell, Winchester, Bassett, ect in the past 15 years? Or like read the local news?
On the other hand, that comic is bit too much in bad taste for my likes for the campaign itself to actually get behind and distribute.
Is this one supporter’s effort or is this ‘Paid for’ and ‘Approved by’? When the work is shown as news I crave the full provenance.
It is very hard for me to find negative caricatures (visual or verbal) to be enjoyable, or helpful to anyone. I tend to reject them and look hard at the source.
Character assassination - by ink or whispers - unfortunately poisons a wide area by attraction and repulsion. I want to see maximum turnout!
posted by: obi on August 21, 2013 11:04am
@Threefilths > “Disrespects Womanhood”
what about 1986 court case involing money missing from Pitts Chapel Church. A female involved made the restitution via her real estate. The incident you refered to was in 1996. Again a female and $4000.00 in pre-paid burial funds. But his disrespect is not limited to women only. He stepped down from being a fire commissioner, because some employees there had too many ‘vowels’ in their name. He should learn to be respectful of others regardless of gender.
Not to worry: If you don’t value the opinion of Rev. Kimber, you will be pleased to know that the entire combined AA clergy associations, and Hispanic clergy associations, also endorse Sen Harp. Likewise, if you don’t value the opinion of Gov. Malloy (and presumably Lt. Gov. Wyman), then you should know that Reps. Dillon, Walker, Holder-Winfield, Candelaria, etc. are working non-stop in support of her effort.
Lastly, I’m not sure I have an alternative for your dislike for Bob Proto’s opinion. Nearly all the other union officials (Locals 34/35, AFSCME, etc)other than the building trades locals endorse Sen Harp. However, if you have an anti-union bent, then there is just no antidote for that. But I question the wisdom of letting one’s personal feelings towards those 3 individuals override your analysis of the accomplishments and record of Sen Harp aver the last 20 plus years.
A good political cartoon makes you think about current events
This says it all.
The Good, the Bad and the Editor
Why political cartoons matter more than ever
by Ted Rall
The cartoon was attributed to “Paid for by the committee to elect Kermit Carolina, Mayor. Teretha Brooks, Treasurer.”
This cartoon is the second cartoon piece put out by Carolina’s campaign. And this is just one of a series of initiatives that have been decried as “bullying” attempts by Carolina against Sen Harp, all of which seek to demean, intimidate, threaten and harass Sen Harp. The links below illustrate the two campaign’s radically differing approaches to campaign “bullying” issues.
It is a poltical cartoon. They have been part of American (and British) politics for a few centuries now. Really.
As a fierce defender of the First Amendment and as the father of a daughter, I will stand in defense of any candidate being able to criticize any other candidate, and at the same time point out that the criticizing of one woman, verbally or in print, does NOT “disrespect womanhood”. Such a suggestion is immediately silly.
While I am not a member of, and thus not included in, the various clergy organizations that have endorsed ANY candidate (as it is not my practice to endorse political candidates), I do come to the defense of Mr. Carolina here as the criticism lobby against him in this instance is about more than him or his campaign.
Rev. Kimber is correct to point out that Black women in American have been “disrespected enough”. But his suggestion that Mr. Carolina’s political critique of Ms. Harp as a candidate for Mayor is degrading is way off the mark.
In fact, had the male candidates for Mayor NOT seriously engaged Senator Harp’s record and ideas for fear of “disrespecting” a woman, such disregard would be more disrespectful of “womanhood”, as it would send the message that women are not a viable candidates and should not be given serious consideration as such. Debate and discussion are the means by which candidates show that they are taking their opponents seriously. An animated depiction is just one (creative) way to do that.
Whether or not you agree with Mr. Carolina’s depiction of his opponent(s) in this Mayoral race, we should be careful about suggesting that he has no right to express his views in the way that he has, nor should we stoop to exaggerating statements that claim his expressed disagreement with one woman is somehow inherently disrespectful of all women.
Such statements are not only without merit, they also offend our intelligence and the spirit of free expression that we should crave in a democratic contest for public office.
The Rev. Mr. Samuel T. Ross-Lee
Immanuel Baptist Church, New Haven
Do “the accomplishments and record of Sen Harp over the last 20 plus years” include giving each CT resident the largest per capita debt in the nation?
It’s pretty pathetic that coming to Harp’s defense is an (ahem) politically expedient black minister who whips out the race/gender cards to complain about an inverted “Driving Miss Daisy” theme (major irony alert). Its clear that it hit close to home because, in fact, its so close to the truth.
PS, If the artist took up residence in the BOA chambers, what a fertile political season it would be. I highly recommend a trip to FDR’s pad in Hyde Park. He collected vintage political cartoons.
Here’s a few about Teddy.
lets simplify it.
a candidate that used the historical art of a Political cartoon (a flyer technique going back century’s)
a candidate that lives off the money made by tax evasion and the neglect of housing property’s that the elderly, disabled and poor live in. Not to mention all the suburban doe ray me that flooded the campaign.
I am not seeing this having anything to do with womenhood? I am lost? Really..all I can think of is that Scully (high paid promo guy) is trying to turn this train wreak of a campaign around by redirecting it to the fact that she is a women. Which as noted above in my comment is not the case.
It was a political cartoon…I think they wish they just thought of it!
Rev Kimber is playing the victim card here, the victim being the African-American woman. African-American woman have suffered racism and sexism for hundreds of years, throughout the world. Today the African-American woman suffers more than any other person in this country. But to imply that Toni Harp falls into this category is inaccurate. Ms. Harp has not suffered from crime, poverty, or institutional racism and sexism that is endured every day by most African American women. Ms. Harp was raised in all white Salt Lake City, attended Yale University, married an architect / developer, and enjoys a standard of living that most African-American women will never attain. Rev. Kimber should apologize to all African-American women in New Haven for making such remarks. His comments only serve to divert attention from the real problems and issues that face African-American women every day.
CT also enjoys the highest per capita income of any of the 50 states. Do you wish to attribute that to Sen Harp as well?
Unless one subscribes to Tea Party economic theory, it is difficult to cherry pick our current economic characteristics and blame its existence on any single political or socio-economic factor (or actor). I do not subscribe to Tea Party economics. Hence I find little meaning or consequence in your per capita debt statistic.
Incorrect. Even including the few remarkably well compensated Greenwich/stamford hedge fund managers, CT doesn’t come close to having twice as high a per capita income as other states. CT has the 3rd highest per capita income amongst states. CTs per capita debt is twice as high as the next nearest state.
The debt is incredible and way out of synch with reality. Since she’s chair of the Appropriation Committee that makes her especially aware of the cash flow and therefore Harp shares a special portion of the blame for this. Unlike Elicker, I recall no efforts by Harp to diminish our debt.
As James Brown would say, let’s look at the case, shall we?
Mr. Carolina is accused of fixing grades by one of his administrators; his response? Attack the mayor and the superintendent. Gov. Malloy endorses senator Harp; his response ? Attack the governor. Senator Harp getting too much press? Attack Ms Harp and her family.
If this pattern continues, he might have to verbally assault everyone in New Haven.
The only thing he has not attacked is the shockingly poor performance at my alma mater, (which is ironically nicknamed the Academics).
His campaign advisers must have read the book “How to lose friends and influence no one”.
It would almost be worth it to have him win the election just to see who he will blame for it…
And just to set the record straight, making fun of Ms. Harp and her views in the course of political debate is perfectly acceptable;
insulting Ms. Harp and her family just because your one trick campaign platform
is going nowhere and your only coherent response is to play the dozens is not acceptable, and will be remembered, win or lose.
posted by: Razzie on August 21, 2013 12:34pm
Not to worry: If you don’t value the opinion of Rev. Kimber, you will be pleased to know that the entire combined AA clergy associations, and Hispanic clergy associations also endorse Sen Harp.
And this is why The condition of the Black and Latino churches in the 21st century can be best summed up as It is not the religion that turns people off, it’s the representatives.This is nothing New. There is no shortage of sell outs and traitors. We are awash in good-for-nothing sell out latino and colored preachers.These stab in the back ministers are growing in numbers across this country, They are a political and financial calculation to ally themselves with this most corrupt and unrighteous adminstrations. Their cynicism and greed are so blatantly obvious that they come off as the unscrupulous always do,making bizarre pronouncements that have no basis in reality. These preachers are useless to there people. They dont serve a spiritual need and their actions are in direct opposition to the political will of the vast majority of there people. They only serve themselves. The way to deal with them is simple. Their congregations must leave their churches en masse and tell them why as they run out the door and down the church steps. Even our enslaved ancestors knew the deal on the sell out preachers.Wake up People.Three things you must not trust.Banks politicians and Preachers,Follow the money trail and it will lead back to all of them.
You have no idea how much I would like to see Toni Harp become mayor.
If Ms. Harp can convince me between now and November that she can end the current mayor’s bullsh*t, then oh yea, but now…. I’m out.
Ridiculous, at best, to define attacking Ms. Harp as a sexist attack. Does a man get to say that an attack against him is an attack to his manhood? What other connotations can be derived by the significant issues brought up in this campaign? Ms. Harp needs to step up to the plate, silence her campaign advisor and her son a bit and come to her OWN defense. She just seems more cowardly as time goes by.
When it comes to politics, I’m not on the right side or the left side. Do you remember when they crucified Christ? There were someone on his left side, and someone on his right side, and they were both thieves. That’s the same way with politics, politics is madness——-BOB MARLEY
The Harp campaign’s strategy, or lack thereof, leaves a great deal to be desired. Even more surprising is thei campaign’s willingness to use just about anybody to do it’s bidding. Boise Kimber, whose exploits in the Black community are certainly a matter of public record, is the last one who should attempt to take the moral high groung, Iif you know what I mean.
But let’s take a look at who Harp surrounds herself with. Jason Bartlett, her campaign manager, was arrested for DUI, driving without insurance, a license or registration while serving as a state representative. Sundiata Kietazulu, served 10 years in prison for drug dealing, and Boise Kimber, who got a felony for stealing an elderly woman’s burial plan money, and eptimomized the corrupt so-called black political power broker under John DeStefano. And this is who we should elect as Mayor?
I have followed this campaign vary closely. I’ve read all the articles, visited candudates’ websites, went to all the debates and listened to Peopke on tge street talk about it. Not once have I seen Carolina be in anyway disrespectful to Black womanhood or to candidate Harp. In fact, It is my understanding that black women serve in the following capacities in the Carolina campaign: director of field operations, director of scheduling, treasurer and assistant treasurer. And he disrespects black womanhood? I would love to know if any of the other campaign’s, including Harp’s, has Black women in decision-
Whenever Harp is challenged, she quickly shrouds herself in the “I’m a woman, be nice to me” blanket. When someone isn’t nice, they’re labeled sexist or anti-woman which actually cheapens the many episodes when women are subjected due to sexism. I don’t want a Mayor who is incapable of maturely and rationally handling criticism. Given that Harp never received criticism in her role as State Senator, she seems completely unprepared to do so now.