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posted by: Pat on March 26, 2010  1:15pm

PLEASE READ and pardon me for posting in non related topic. We see the effects everyday in our communities, schools, and families. It is about time we make America responsible for running a prison industrial complex on the backs of Black and Brown people. What gets me so upset, is so soon we forget the purported studies and findings of academia. Just a few overwhelming stats for your consumption, in 1970 there were 300,00 people incarcerated in the US and now there is 2.3 million and guess who has always been the majority there. If you said Black and Brown people ding ding you are correct and the disturbing fact is minorities currently make up 85% of the current inmate population and for every three black men one of them will be a felon. Is it not obvious that once you become a felon you lose majority of your constitutional freedoms and since minorities are the ones most affected by these stigmas it serves t show why the White Agenda is not to keen on fixing the problem. Instead they implement further privatization of correctional institution in rural White areas and those communities benefit from an increased population in governmental subsidies. Listen to formulate our Agenda we must truly understand how we targeted. Please read this article get a better understanding of the mass incarceration of minorities click or paste in your address bar http://pureblacktruth.wordpress.com/2010/03/24/the-new-nigger-has-been-resurrected/.

  I’ll leave you with this once you’re branded a felon, you may be denied the right to vote; automatically excluded from juries; and legally discriminated against in employment, housing, access to education and public benefits. You know, the very rights that we supposedly won for African Americans in the civil rights movement no longer exist for those labeled felons. That’s why I say we have not ended racial caste in America; we’ve merely redesigned it. All the old forms of discrimination, the forms of discrimination we supposedly left behind, are now perfectly legal once you’ve been labeled a felon. And thanks to the war on drugs, millions of people of color have been branded felons for relatively minor drug activity, you know, in the past few decades.

posted by: Malvi Lennon on March 27, 2010  9:19pm

So what do you propose we do round up whites and incarcerate them so prisons may be more racially integrated? Criminals belong in prison. I do not care if they are black, white, red or purple with pink specs. The proportion of white/minorities is not race based it is life style related.As to loosing certain rights afforded to law abiding people it is not because of race it is because of the bad choices some people make in life.

posted by: Walt on March 29, 2010  5:44am

Can’t deny that ex-cons have a self-inflicted problem,  but if they get affirmative action whether for housing or jobs, someone who obeyed the law gets screwed.

Many years ago I directed the National Assn of Business office in this area.  One of their programs was affirmative action on jobs for ex-cons,  directed by an embezzler of hundreds of thousands of $$$$$$  from his cushy office in Wash. D.C.

I refused to implement it here,  which disturbed the DC crowd, but fortunately   (for me)  was OK   to the local honchos,  who were involved to aid minorities.

Do not know the answer for the problem but affirmative action as here,  or as in my experience,  still seems grossly unfair to those who have always lived by   the rules.

posted by: Walt on March 29, 2010  7:27am

Sorry,senior moment—-National Alliance of Business, not Assn is group I meant to mention.

posted by: IN THE TRENCHES on March 29, 2010  8:38am

To: Malvi Lennon. What we are suggesting is FAIR, JUST, and BALANCED justice in our legal systems and we just don’t have that. The racial make-up of our prison system is not a reflection of who commits the majority of crime, it is more-so a make-up of who gets CONVICTED at a higher rate. Blacks and white sell and use drugs at about the same rate, so why are blacks filling the prisons? What purpose would our legislators have for implementing laws that give out higher penalties for crack than powdered cocaine? Why is it that a killer, pedophile, fraud-er etc. can receive financial aid for college but a non-violent drug offender can be excluded for simply being caught with a joint? Why do drug charges affect where you and your family can be housed? I’ll tell you why: The so called Drug War is the new Jim Crow. No matter how many DEA, FBI, and local police officials CONFIRM that the drug war is more about race than public safety, people continue to hold on to the wide-spread belief that drugs in this country is a “black thing.” How so when the market is controlled by non-blacks? We really need to be honest with ourselves and each other if we really wanna make society better for us all. Right now the focus seems to be to just make society better for white people. As if a birth-given privilege isn’t enough.

posted by: Pat on March 29, 2010  8:49am

If you think that what I have wrote implies I want to see the same treatment reversed you are certainly misguided. I believe in human rights for every man, woman, or child. I bet tomorrow if someone said there would be no more killing cows for boots or steaks, or no more beer & alcohol sold at sports bars, or how about no more breathing for free you would maybe get the fact laws are man made dodo. The most formidable law of the land thou shalt not kill, well how the hell do you think you can sit your behind down in front of a computer without the mass genocide of Native Americans that took place in this country. Don’t tell me about no man made laws designed to incarcerate minorities and poor whites alike because some freaking people like you thinks you reserve the right to morally judge others, but use the same indiscretions when they suit you or your causes. It is plain hypocritical because your neighbor is strung out on percocet and oxycontin instead of crack or heroin makes you better. There will be redemption for people like you, but since your so busy worrying about taking god-given rights from people you will be to busy thinking how your moral fiber is constructed beyond reproach, get a grip. You to my friend have sinned and guess what? Who was besides Jesus on their own crosses, bearing the judgments of man and was promised from the mouth of Jesus himself the eternal life in our fathers kingdom? That’s right two thieves so careful who you are so quick to condemn since in actuality you are only condemning yourself.

posted by: Pat on March 29, 2010  9:03am

reply posted by: IN THE TRENCHES
I don’t think I could have possibly said it any better. Let us not forget where the drug task forces are erected and conducted with a gestapo-like approach to it’s citizens. I dont understand why some people have to go outside and get rained on when someone forewarned the rain was coming you know why? There quest for ignorance help them to easily ignore the truth and put spin on it so unlike reality they lose themselves,families, and friends in their nonsense. Bottom-line the blind are leading the blind in this country it won’t be until its too late like i.e. USSR, Italy, and Germany who once had great empires that have let there governments and politician run there countries into the ground, literally. It’s so easy for the US to loose its current voice in the world as long as we run around demanding equality, democracy, and freedom for all and we boast to the world we have 2.3 million incarcerated as we speak.

posted by: mikect on March 29, 2010  8:49pm

What about the guy that just lost his job and has a family to support? You don’t spend 14 years in prison for nothing. ...  There are real people out their struggling, how about helping them before ex-cons!!!

posted by: judith on March 30, 2010  9:56am

the “welcome center” is to opened where on George Street?