New Haven Independent

posted by: Bobinthe2nd on August 13, 2010  7:42am

CHICAGOLAND comes to Connecticut.

Going win elections the old fashioned way.

“As a religious organization, we do not comment on donations,” Penn said.

As a religious organization I’d think you should stay out of politics.

posted by: MM on August 13, 2010  7:56am

Oh, what a surprise. Who could ever have guessed this would happen. Obviously another situation needing an in depth investigation by our attorney general. Now, what’s his name, rhymes with tricky ....

posted by: terrapin on August 13, 2010  7:58am

It’s a wash. Any votes that the Reverend brings to the table will be cancelled out by votes lost when people see the Mayor getting in bed with this guy. By the way, it’s OK if it’s just a donation. If the Mayor thinks he’s paying for a pre-need burial service, he might find himself sadly surprised when it comes time to collect.

posted by: Bruce on August 13, 2010  8:10am

I don’t understand how any self-respecting politician could have any interaction with this guy.  Now I am DEFINITELY not voting for Malloy.  Time to see what Foley is all about.

posted by: The Politburo on August 13, 2010  8:40am

Politricks as usual. ...

posted by: Cedarhillresident on August 13, 2010  8:48am

Ha Bruce….I feel ya on that; but Foley :0

I can’t help but wonder how Johnny is feeln’ on this one :)

posted by: Amedat on August 13, 2010  9:12am

you all are simpletons if you think quid pro quo plays are limited to low level black minister who ... black votes. here’s a real story NHI: whoever wins in November, follow the benefits that flow to their campaign donors in the ensuing months and years. i’m talking millions now..not this race-baiting garbage involving Boise Kimber.

posted by: Hmmm... on August 13, 2010  9:30am

I got no problem with Malloy donating money to the Convention. They do some decent stuff in their communities.  What I want to know is does Kimber REALLY have the ability to pull votes? Most of the black community ... olerate him. He’s a loud boisterous voice when you need one (if you can afford him.) But otherwise you ignore him.

Why are we still reading stories about him? You are creating his fame. Ignore him and he will go away.

posted by: Threefifths on August 13, 2010  9:42am

This is notihng new.Bloomberg in New York did this.

Bloomberg Courts the Black Clergy with $1 Million.

few weeks ago, the Rev. Calvin O. Butts III, the influential pastor of the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem, came to a difficult decision, one he had wrestled with all summer.

He would not endorse William C. Thompson Jr., the city comptroller and a longtime friend and ally, for mayor, as he had promised Mr. Thompson last spring. Instead, he would endorse Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

Mr. Thompson was furious at the betrayal. But what he did not know was that Mr. Bloomberg gave a $1 million donation to the church’s development corporation — roughly 10 percent of its annual budget — with the implicit promise of more to come.
Read the rest.

http://bloombergwatch.com/index.php/10/bloomberg-courts-the-black-clergy-with-1-million/

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/29/nyregion/29ministers.html?_r=2

Bloomberg Greases Black Ministers

Rev. Calvin O. Butts III has managed to grab “at least $7 million in city contracts” under Bloomberg for his church and non-profits.

Rev. Floyd H. Flake is awash in millions of dollars—make that $8 million—in city contracts for city services his church provides.

Rev. A.R. Bernard wins the trophy: the Bloomberg administration decided to sell parts of two streets to his Christian Cultural Center.

According to the article, Bloomberg “has deployed an unusual combination of city money, private philanthropy, political appointments and personal attention, creating a web of ties to black clergy members that is virtually unheard of for a white elected official in New York City.”

http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/498634651.html
These charlatan Politicians don’t go to the white preacher’s. And to those of you who voted for Malloy,How you like your crooked two party system.Were are you at streever dude.How about you Cedar Hill my little fraction,Hey gary my man from the bronx you did pull you main man malloy coat tail on the good Reverend.I bet if King malloy get’s in and start a faith base program watch who will be the head of it.

posted by: Brian L. Jenkins on August 13, 2010  10:00am

Malloy won New Haven not because of what B.Kimber did, but for what John DeStefano didn’t do. Endorse MALLOY!! To suggest that the Black Community follows the lead of B.Kimber, is equivalent to suggesting that the white community follows the lead of people like David Duke. There are many in the Black Community that have a great affinity for B.Kimber, similarly, there are many in the Catholic Community that feel the same way towards their Priests (in spite of).

Politics is a numbers game. Who ever acquires the largest plurality, wins. Don’t hold Malloy in disdain for seeking help from people such as B.Kimber, hold him in admiration for not coddling the mayor. We all have done things that we’re not proud of, so to hold B.Kimber culpable for everything that goes wrong in the city, is just flat out wrong. We can’t get to Heaven, unless we forgive!

posted by: gross. on August 13, 2010  10:00am

At some point, I’d love an in-depth background report on the whole history of Kimber, DeStefano, et al.  As a recent transplant, I’m wondering: is Kimber still much of a leader for the under-40 set?  Who are the up and coming young black leaders in town?  Also: if he can be bought with $1000, he’s not as powerful as he thinks he is (see links above to the millions it took for Bloomberg to win over powerful endorsements from clergy in NYC).

posted by: KeepLeft on August 13, 2010  10:19am

Would-ah, could-ah, should-ah, did or dint.

If you are looking for folks who would sell their souls, keep your eyes on the Foley camp when the corporations start sending in money or running ads for Tom Foley.

Then we’ll really be talking about undue influence.

posted by: Threefifths on August 13, 2010  11:02am

posted by: KeepLeft on August 13, 2010 11:19am
Would-ah, could-ah, should-ah, did or dint.

If you are looking for folks who would sell their souls, keep your eyes on the Foley camp when the corporations start sending in money or running ads for Tom Foley.

Then we’ll really be talking about undue influence.

This is why I don’t vote for the crooked two party system.

posted by: Brian L. Jenkins on August 13, 2010 11:00am

so to hold B.Kimber culpable for everything that goes wrong in the city, is just flat out wrong. We can’t get to Heaven, unless we forgive!

But not if you are still runing the same con game on the people.

posted by: Separation church / state on August 13, 2010  11:18am

He holds fundraising events at his church??? Whatever happened to the separation of church and state??? I wold be pissed if I was one of his parishioner’s….

posted by: @Gross on August 13, 2010  11:23am

The best up and coming candidate that New Haven has to offer absolutely without a doubt goes to GARY HOLDER-WINFIELD!! This is a young man who u definitely need to keep your eye on IF u want to see how politics should be conducted and to see how a GOOD politician works!

posted by: Brian L. Jenkins on August 13, 2010  11:28am

“There you go again” Threefifths. If the people in the Black Community wish not to listen and or follow Kimber ‘s lead as it relates to voting, then they won’t. The difference between Kimber and others who are involved in politics is, he gets paid. And that, I find to be commendable. This type of individual exist in all political parties, including yours. So where’s the con you speak of?

posted by: Threefifths on August 13, 2010  11:32am

posted by: @Gross on August 13, 2010 12:23pm
The best up and coming candidate that New Haven has to offer absolutely without a doubt goes to GARY HOLDER-WINFIELD!! This is a young man who u definitely need to keep your eye on IF u want to see how politics should be conducted and to see how a GOOD politician works!

It will not make a difference.He will still be under party control.

It makes no difference who you vote for—the two parties are really one party representing 4 percent of the people. - Gore Vidal

posted by: Watchman on August 13, 2010  11:47am

Dan Malloy would apparently, sell his soul for votes.  This is a bad marriage between Church and State.
I question Malloy’s indifference to our State of Connecticut, massive $3.5 billion budget shortfall, when he closes his eyes, and adds another $6. million dollars, to our deficit, for campaign financing, provided to him by the vote of his big spending, Democratic General Assembly, so he can use taxpayer broke money, instead, of his own money. 

“Malloy fibs in his campaign ads, about his middle class heritage.”  He is well into the multi-millionaires’ category, and he keeps his money, by using taxpayer funds.

Give credit to his Republican opponent, Tom Foley for Governor.  He is using his own money for his election campaign, unlike Malloys’ vivid example of MILKING THE SYSTEM!

Warning: If voters, badly choose, to match up Democrat Dan Malloy, with a reckless spending Democratic, General Assembly, which has already SPENT US BLIND, look for unopposed, huge spending on the horizon. Only Tom Foley, would veto bad bills for our already hurting state taxpayers.

P. S. An old saying goes:  “Those who have it, don’t want to part with it!”  Dan Malloy exemplifies that saying.

posted by: minorsevenchord on August 13, 2010  12:27pm

Dont you get it. This is how they juggle public campaign money with private contributions.  You see my friends, one offsets the other. So guess what. The taxpayers of CT.  Yup all of you made this donation. And you will make many in the days to come. This is a disgusting use of public money.

posted by: Hood Rebel on August 13, 2010  12:28pm

This article is downright mean. Let’s take a look at what promises and gifts Lamont, Malloy, McMahon and others actually made to local politicians, priests, rabbis and other players.

Is there some deep and compelling reason to feature Kimber over others?  Articles about him tend to generate this kind emotional outrage—often unfairly directed to the entire black church community. Or is it his past—which was pardoned? Not fair!

posted by: ASL on August 13, 2010  12:35pm

I am a Malloy supporter who held my nose as I voted for him.  I think he’ll do the best job as governor but was disappointed in both (1) the affiliations he chose to make in New Haven and (2) the negativity of his campaign.  Luckily, I didn’t have much time to watch TV this campaign season or he may have lost my vote.

I think Malloy made a mistake by buying into the idea that New Haven politics is organized around those who hate the Mayor and those who don’t.  The majority of voters appreciate good policy, reject bad policy and are capable of seeing beyond the politics of personality.  And I think Malloy was lucky that he baited Lamont into going negative.  Lamont went so over the top with retorts that he may have borne the brunt of voters’ rejection of nasty campaigning.

I believe that Malloy won the wards where Boise Kimber, Darnell Goldson and others paid off by the Malloy campaign had influence.  But I believe (and, NHI and others, please correct me if I’m wrong) that he also won wards, like East Rock wards 9 and 10, where those folks have no influence whatsoever.  I hope that that’s a lesson to all candidates to stop treating the voters like idiots and to focus your campaign on your record and smarts.  And when your opponent goes negative, stay positive and continue to tell the voters why you’re the best candidate, not why your opponent is a scumbucket (even if he or she is truly a scumbucket).  Dan, you won because you were the best candidate in the race, not because you jumped into bed with self-described vote-getters like “Reverend” Kimber and Darnell Goldson.  You’ve got limited dollars to spend on this campaign.  Please use them wisely.  We need you in Hartford come January.

posted by: streever on August 13, 2010  1:09pm

3/5ths,

While I think the vast majority of NHI readers probably agree with you that, in general, the 2 party system is broken, we don’t let dogma and ideology cloud our thinking. We vote for the candidate we think is the best—of those available—and then deal with the results.

—
no comment on Malloy vs Lamont/etc—it was a hard election and I was not sure who I was going to vote for up until the last minute.

posted by: Anderson Scooper on August 13, 2010  1:31pm

Dan Malloy was just feeling “charitable” according to Brian Durand?

Is this a sign of all the lies we’ll have to swallow if Malloy wins in November? (btw, as a good Democrat, I’ll be voting for Our Slimeball, an not Their Slime-ball,—and you should too!)

From what I understand Kimber was not tasked to vote pulling. Instead his job was to call black preachers across the state, and to get them to withhold any support of Lamont, (who Malloy suggested might be a racist.)

Finally, no mention of Darnell Goodson getting paid several thousand dollars by Malloy?

posted by: Beth W. on August 13, 2010  3:56pm

@KeepLeft: You can keep your eyes on the Foley camp all you want, but they and their big biz pals will bury their contributions and support so deep most voter will never know.

@Watchman: Malloy’s no millionaire—he didn’t come from money and has never made money as defined by lower Fairfield County…he’s house rich, and that’s about it. (You’d know if you see the piece of crap car his wife shares with his son—no lie.)

Lots of talk about $1000 to a preacher, but a closer look at what the other candidates have done and are doing would NO DOUBT reveal far, far greater transgressions. Lesser evil, I’m just sayin’.

posted by: stevesywonder on August 13, 2010  6:17pm

Just a quick observation on this thread. Until the November elections, you will read tit-for-tat opinions on blogs, the New Haven Independent, Connecticut News Junkie and the like. MOST of these opinions are “plants” by campaign managers and interns. In this case, WATCHMAN seems to endorse Tom Foley without regard to the merits of the article whatsoever. Think critically!

posted by: Thomas Paine on August 13, 2010  6:21pm

Malloy is shooting himself in the foot. This Kimber is a felon and an absolute nobody outside of Desteffano’s office. He is attempting to claim credit for the areas Malloy turnout , when nobody listens to him or follows any order from him. Malloy is assembling quite a Tim Burton ensemble from New Haven . H…
  We have to realise we just ousted the better candidate in Ned Lamont , and hope for a Military Hero as an independent to drop from the sky . Or it’s another 4 years of higher taxes,Utilities,red ink, exodus

posted by: Threefifths on August 13, 2010  6:31pm

posted by: Brian L. Jenkins on August 13, 2010 12:28pm

There you go again” Threefifths. If the people in the Black Community wish not to listen and or follow Kimber ‘s lead as it relates to voting, then they won’t. The difference between Kimber and others who are involved in politics is, he gets paid.

You got that right he does get paid.Just like most minster across this country as I said in my above post.You forgot also his personal ties with seven-term New Haven Mayor John DeStefano.

This type of individual exist in all political parties, including yours.

There you go again.Idon’t belong to any party.I told you I am fighting to get the system call Proportional Representation.Do you know what that is Let me show you.

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/polit/damy/BeginnningReading/howprwor.htm

You see under your two crooked party system that you are a part of which is a elective dictatorship.With Proportional Representation this is greatly diminished.

So where’s the con you speak of.

Notice how Politician tell you one thing and sell you something eles.

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/ctnj.php/archives/entry/house_overrides_veto_106_to_30/

Why don’t you move back here and help me get Proportional Representation started My brother!!!!

posted by: streever on August 13, 2010 2:09pm
3/5ths,

While I think the vast majority of NHI readers probably agree with you that, in general, the 2 party system is broken, we don’t let dogma and ideology cloud our thinking. We vote for the candidate we think is the best—of those available—and then deal with the results.

Thank you and the other two party system love’s for voting this in. Check out these results DUDE!!!! Notice how they filp flop.Why should the pay for this man’s election out of my tax dollars DUDE!!!!

posted by: Oh boy on August 13, 2010  6:40pm

Sleep with dogs and you get fleas.

posted by: To AnersonPooper on August 13, 2010  6:55pm

@AndersonPooper:

Many people were on other candidates payroll. I don’t know if it is true or not that Goldson was personally on Malloy’s, but I do know that Kimber was not. I don’t see you writing comments about Ald Marcus Paca and Democratic Ward Chair Audrey Tyson on Lamont’s payroll. How about Scooping that.

posted by: Bill Saunders on August 13, 2010  8:00pm

Is Malloy actually greeting Kimber in that photo, or is he signaling him to keep his distance?

posted by: new havener on August 14, 2010  12:24pm

I really didn’t read the story - but all I know is that I voted for Malloy and want to get paid too.  Mr. Malloy, if you’re reading comments, where can I pick up my check.  I’m serious, this is not a joke

posted by: GIL ROSS on August 14, 2010  2:44pm

Malloy is not a bad man but as long as he is an insider he will not be able to fundamentally change how business ins done in this state. Kimber is one of the crew and Malloy is just another member of the club.

posted by: Watchman on August 15, 2010  11:59am

Stevesby Wonder:

I am a plant for NO ONE. Tom Foley is paying for his own election, and has the ability to lead this State, based on his successful, top-echelon corporate leadership, unlike Dan Malloy, a typical Democratic “tax and spend politician “who is “milking the unfortunate Connecticut taxpayers, for over $6.million dollars, while the State of Connecticut is $3.5 billion dollars in debt”

MALLOY IS A POLITICIAN, WHO AMASSED HIS LIFETIME EARNINGS THROUGH POLITICS! MALLOY IS LAUGHING, ALL THE WAY, TO THE BANK, WHILE HE SPENDS OUR BROKEN STATE TREASURY BLIND, TO FURTHER HIS POLITICAL AMBITIONS. UNLIKE TOM FOLEY, WHO IS PAYING HIS-OWN ELECTION CAMPAIGN TAB, DAN MALLOY, IS NO BUSINESSMAN. 

THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT IS FACING COMPLETE FISCAL SUICIDE, BY VOTERS, IF THEY ELECT, AND MATCH UP FOLEY WITH OUR DEFICIT-SPENDING, DEMOCRATIC STATE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WHO HAVE NO CONCEPT, OF HOW TO RUN OUR STATE, LIKE A BUSINESS.

ONLY TOM FOLEY, HAS PROVEN, “UPPER-ECHELON BUSINESS SUCCESSFUL QUALIFICATIONS,” IN THE GOVERNOR’S ELECTION, AND CAN BE COUNTED ON, “TO VETO THE TAX AND SPENDING BY DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS, THAT GOT US IN, THIS MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR, DEFICIT MESS, TO START WITH!
ELECT AN “UPPER ECHELON BUSINESS BUSINESSMAN” IN TOM FOLEY FOR GOVERNOR. ONLY TOM FOLEY QUALIFIES TO TACKLE THE IMMENSE, STATE FISCAL PROBLEMS, IN DIFFICULT TIMES!

posted by: Charlie O'Keefe on August 15, 2010  12:48pm

Interesting. Malloy can give $1,000 to Boise Kimbers church. I reckon DeStefano can’t afford that much now he’s paying such high property taxes. This could be a serious problem at the next mayoral election. I assume O’Brien’s still around as he re-assessed the mayor’s house correctly.

posted by: Watchman on August 15, 2010  3:23pm

Beth W.:

  You say, Dan Malloy, “only has a million dollar house, and an old car!”  YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY, DAN FOLEY HAS IN THE BANK, AND OTHER INVESTMENTS?

Thanks to our generous Democratic Connecticut General Assembly, Malloy was gifted over $6. million dollars, so he does not have to tap his own bankroll! 

State Democratic lawmakers, and Dan Malloy, show themselves to be ABSOLUTELY IRRESPONSIBLE, IN VIEW OF OUR MASSIVE $3.5 BILLION DOLLAR STATE DEFICIT. BY EXAMPLE!

Dan Malloy, and his Democratic lawmakers, chose to MILK THE CONNECTICUT STATE COW, THAT IS ALREADY, “OVERMILKED!”

Shame on them….and they thought, Connecticut voters, did not notice, this absolute, fiscal
indifference….......Not so!  THERE IS THE POWER OF THE VOTER, ON ELECTION DAY!

posted by: robn on August 16, 2010  12:20pm

Why is a tax exempt organization holding political rallies and receiving money from PACs? Could this possibly be legal?

posted by: Threefifths on August 16, 2010  12:59pm

Like I said Minster are for sale.Check Out Rev. Boise Kimber main man.

$110K grant kept Rev. Al Sharpton quiet about Mayor Bloomberg changing term limits
Adam Lisberg

Sunday, August 15th 2010, 4:00 AM

The Rev. Al Sharpton finally disagreed with Mayor Bloomberg a week ago on how to change elections in the city. It was a long time coming.

The most prominent African-American voice in New York has a warm and productive relationship with its richest and most powerful white man. They don’t always agree, but they always get along.

On Aug. 7, Sharpton said he would fight any push to make city elections nonpartisan - which Bloomberg hoped to do this fall.

His public stand helped kill the idea. Barely 48 hours later, Bloomberg pulled the plug.

Two years earlier, though, Sharpton stayed mum while Bloomberg rammed through a law to extend term limits so he could run again.

Why?

Perhaps because, as the city was convulsed over term limits, Sharpton’s National Action Network got a $110,000 grant from a brand-new nonprofit funded by Bloomberg.

In fact, on the very day Bloomberg announced he wanted to run again, the first $50,000 of the grant was transferred to the National Action Network.

The details are buried in filings from the Education Equality Project, a group started two months earlier by Sharpton and Bloomberg’s school chancellor, Joel Klein, to close the gap between white and minority students.

The project reported only two cash donations in 2008, gifts of $250,000 each from two anonymous donors.

Bloomberg spokesman Stu Loeser would not discuss specifics, but said the mayor gave money to the education project in 2008 - which means Bloomberg was one of those two donors.

The National Action Network got $50,000 on Oct. 2, 2008, and the remaining $60,000 on Oct. 17, 2008. The Education Equality Project’s tax filing claims there was no conflict of interest in giving money to a group run by one of its own founders: “There is no relationship between the Organization and NAN.”

Sharpton told the Daily News last week the National Action Network never got any of Bloomberg’s money - “not that I know of.”

He insisted he spoke out against Bloomberg changing term limits, though it doesn’t show up in any news clips from the time.

“When the mayor changed term limits, I’ve been on the record against it all along,” Sharpton insisted. “The mayor has no financial arrangements, before or after, with us.”

More to the point, he said the education project’s cash didn’t buy Bloomberg any favors from him - and he ended up quitting the group because he opposed Bloomberg’s successful effort to renew mayoral control of city schools.

Sharpton endorsed the African-American William Thompson against Bloomberg last year but was barely visible. Sharpton denounces the NYPD’s stop-and-frisk program at his Saturday rallies, but not on the steps of City Hall.

Allies of Sharpton say he opposed nonpartisan elections on the merits, fearing it would hurt minority voters and candidates.

Rejecting nonpartisan elections showed Bloomberg that Sharpton can’t be bought.

But taking a dive on term limits showed Bloomberg that Sharpton might be able to be rented.

posted by: Brian L. Jenkins on August 16, 2010  9:50pm

To the editor of this domain. I have written about the indiscretions of ministers in general and have noticed, that so long as someone is bashing Black Ministers, you’ll post it without any hesitation. But if Rabbis and Priests’ behaviors were analogous, and they are. It wouldn’t be posted. Just like I don’t expect you’ll post this one.
Who do you think your fooling?

[Note: Thanks for the comment. Don’t know if you saw this: http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/fbi_dragnet_snares_rabbi_slumlord_ex-lawmaker/
Of this: http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/church_sexual_abuse_law_suit_filed/ ]

posted by: Publius on August 18, 2010  7:32am

Right Boise Kimber. This guy plays the race card real well. He is as bad as Charlie Rangel but Rangel is better at the scam and the sham.