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YNHH Gives “Promise” A Boost

by Uma Ramiah | Apr 29, 2011 1:30 pm

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Uma Ramiah Photo Dar’Ron Brown, 15, wore a sharp dark suit and listened attentively as an official from Yale-New Haven Hospital (YNHH) announced a $2 million grant to New Haven Promise: Partnership, a support program aimed at getting more city kids like him into local colleges.

“It’s important for students to know that someone’s in their corner, pushing them towards college,” said Brown, reacting to the news. A freshman at Metropolitan Business Academy on Water Street, where the press conference was held, he’s already thinking about colleges himself: University of Connecticut, University of New Haven and Southern Connecticut State.

“So I think this is really great.”

Wells Fargo bank joined the hospital, donating $300,000 to New Haven Promise: Partnership. It’s part of a program called New Haven Promise, that has created a fund to pay for New Haven high school students to go to in-state college, provided they meet certain requirements, like good grades and community service.

New Haven Promise: Partnership aims to prepare students to apply to the scholarship by encouraging a culture of “college-going.” Through an organization called College Summit, tutoring and mentoring programs will roll out in every New Haven public school, teaching students how to embrace a college focused culture from a young age.

YNHH CEO Marna Borgstrom emphasized the hospital’s commitment to improving public health in the city. “People who come from a stable home and come out with a good education will make better decisions about their health,” she said. “And we need to have a workforce that’s educated, competent and committed to health care themselves.”

Mayor John DeStefano said that while the original New Haven Promise: Scholarship was the first important step in getting kids into higher education, that program alone would leave many kids behind.

“That’s what this partnership is all about,” he said. “We will expect all students to change their aspirations and goals, from kindergarten age and up. We want them to change them from thinking, ‘Will I go to college,’ to ‘Where will I go to college?’”

It’s about creating a new normal, he said.

Jeremy Jamison, 14 (left) and Eric Daniels Jr., 17, a freshman and junior at Metropolitan Business Academy, admitted that they weren’t eligible for the scholarship: they both live in Hamden.

“I think the scholarship is a great opportunity, but I feel a little left out,” said Daniels. “Because I go to school in New Haven too, and this is where I put all my hard work in.”

But he’s still applying to be a peer leader with the College Summit program. After a training workshop at Yale, he’ll be asked to influence other kids at his school to think seriously about college.

“So it’s good that they have this part of the program too, for those of us who can’t get the scholarship,” Daniels said. “I still get something from the city to enhance my knowledge.”

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posted by: Threefifths on April 29, 2011  4:55pm

More Three Card Monte and SnakeOil selling.I give it two years and which what will happen.

posted by: streever on April 29, 2011  9:25pm

3/5ths:
If the program has sent 400 kids to college in the next 2 years, will you say, “I was wrong”?

posted by: Leslie Blatteau on April 30, 2011  8:52am

Say what you will about the corporate structures that enable the Promise to exist and indeed be a bit skeptical of the program’s sustainability, but three-fifths, it disheartens me that you don’t even acknowledge the kids in this article.  They are clearly hard-working, motivated young people who deserve to be celebrated.  They need support from adults not constant cynicism. They need people to tell them they can do it, with or without the Promise, which is why I was impressed with the overall message of this press conference.  The first comment under an article about them should not be so darn negative.  What ever happened to hope?  Or is that just a by-product of the two-party system?  Dar’ron, Shirley-Ann, Jeremy, Eric and the rest of the NHPS students who totally rule, keep it up. With work ethics like yours, the world can be yours too!

posted by: Threefifths on April 30, 2011  4:38pm

posted by: streever on April 29, 2011 9:25pm
3/5ths:
If the program has sent 400 kids to college in the next 2 years, will you say, “I was wrong”?

And If it does not would you say I was wrong.


posted by: Leslie Blatteau on April 30, 2011 8:52am
Say what you will about the corporate structures that enable the Promise to exist and indeed be a bit skeptical of the program’s sustainability, but three-fifths, it disheartens me that you don’t even acknowledge the kids in this article

I do acknowledge the kids in this article,But I am telling them the truth,Which is they are being sold snake oil.


They need people to tell them they can do t, with or without the Promise, which is why I was impressed with the overall message of this press conference.  The first comment under an article about them should not be so darn negative.  What ever happened to hope?

my comment is not negative,Can you or anyone trust anything that yale and King John is selling.

Dar’ron, Shirley-Ann, Jeremy, Eric and the rest of the NHPS students who totally rule, keep it up. With work ethics like yours, the world can be yours too!

Work ethics.Here is waht is waiting for most of them.

In Job Hunt, College Degree Can’t Close Racial Gap
By MICHAEL LUO
Published: November 30, 2009

Johnny R. Williams, 30, would appear to be an unlikely person to have to fret about the impact of race on his job search, with companies like JPMorgan Chase and an M.B.A. from the University of Chicago on his résumé.

But after graduating from business school last year and not having much success garnering interviews, he decided to retool his résumé, scrubbing it of any details that might tip off his skin color. His membership, for instance, in the African-American business students association? Deleted.

“If they’re going to X me,” Mr. Williams said, “I’d like to at least get in the door first.”

Read the rest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/us/01race.html?_r=1&e

posted by: Threefifths on April 30, 2011  4:49pm

posted by: Leslie Blatteau on April 30, 2011 8:52am

Or is that just a by-product of the two-party system?

Tell me what has the two party system done for you and others.You keep voting them in and things get worse.

posted by: streever on April 30, 2011  9:20pm

3/5ths:
I truly hope that I am right and you are wrong….
“Tell me what has the two party system done for you and others.You keep voting them in and things get worse.”
What has a third party done for you?
I (mostly) agree with you on the politics, but you can’t really say things are worse now than in 1850, for instance. Go back even farther, and things only get worse.

posted by: NHPS parent on May 1, 2011  7:04am

I for one am very grateful for this program.  I graduated from college with a high debt load—-now paying $1000/month between my husband and myself. My husband is the first to graduate from college in his family and was not well informed on loans. As a middle class parent, my daughter would not qualify for grants and would also face the education vs debt dilemma if it were not for this program.  This opportunity will provide her with the chance for college without becoming an indentured to her student loans.  Thank-you YNHH for your added contribution!

posted by: Threefifths on May 1, 2011  2:44pm

posted by: streever on April 30, 2011 9:20pm
3/5ths:
I truly hope that I am right and you are wrong….

I know I will be right.Ask your self this question,How come yale will not just let these student come to yale for free.Also look at the corporate vampire crooked bank Wells Fargo who is donating $300,000.Give me a break.This is the same Wells Fargo bank Being sued for Fraud.
Wells Fargo Overdraft Lawsuit: Bank Ordered To Pay $203 MILLION In Fees Over ‘Unfair’ Charges

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/11/wells-fargo-overdraft-law_n_679178.html

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2011/02/wells_fargo_bank_sued_for_frau.php

Blood money off of the backs of working people.


What has a third party done for you?

Nothing, ... third parties are locked out of the debates by your two party system.This is why I am for the system of proportional representation with along with term limits.
Would you vote for this third party politician.He speaks out more then any of the two party system politicians that you and others support.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n33AJfR52M8#at=29

I (mostly) agree with you on the politics, but you can’t really say things are worse now than in 1850, for instance. Go back even farther, and things only get worse.

Have you been around your community and other communities and talk to the people.I have and seen first hand that thing are worse now then back then in 1850.In fact you had more employment back then for people of color then you have now.It was call slavery.


P.S. I know you will like this.In fact I can see you pushing this in the schools.

April 30, 2011, 7:30 pm In Schools, a Push to Pedal
By J. DAVID GOODMAN


http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/in-schools-a-push-to-pedal/?hpw

posted by: nogame on May 2, 2011  11:02pm

I’ve been watching this debate and wondering why more people aren’t challenging threefifths on his cynicism and negativity.  I am not a frequent commenter and I was waiting for the regular commenters to chime in.  Then when threefifths said that things are worse now for blacks than they were in 1850, I realized what the regulars must already know: that it is a waste of time to argue with someone who could say something that unreasonable.  I wanted to ask how money for college is snake oil.  Without denying that employment discrimination exists against blacks, I wanted to point out (I have seen it first hand) that that sword cuts both ways.  Oh well.

posted by: Threefifths on May 3, 2011  8:47am

posted by: nogame on May 2, 2011 11:02pm
I’ve been watching this debate and wondering why more people aren’t challenging threefifths on his cynicism and negativity.  I am not a frequent commenter and I was waiting for the regular commenters to chime in. 

Because like you.They can not disprove me wrong.I challenge any of them and you to prove what I say is wrong.I can back up everything that I say.


Then when threefifths said that things are worse now for blacks than they were in 1850, I realized what the regulars must already know: that it is a waste of time to argue with someone who could say something that unreasonable.

Unreasonable.I bring facts.Read the State of Black America Report by the National Urban League.

http://ournewsnow.com/home/932/Blacks-Worse-Off-in-201

And latinos are not far behind.

LATINOS

For the second year, the report also gave Hispanics their own equality index rating, which rose slightly compared to last year — from 76.6 percent to 76.8 percent.

Overall, however, Latinos still lag far behind their white American counterparts in terms of wealth, education, health and justice, with the equality gap growing in the areas of loan access and college enrollment, the report said.

Can you disprove me on this fact.


I wanted to ask how money for college is snake oil.

The people who are behind the money are selling snake-oil When can you and others trust anything that King John has his hands in.

Bottom line can you and others disprove me wrong.I don’t think so.

posted by: nogame on May 3, 2011  10:56am

threefifths: The facts you provide show that things are worse for blacks in 2011 vs 2010.  That seems reasonable and defensible to me.  Your original statement that I took issue with was that things are worse for blacks in 2011 vs 1850.  That’s where you lost credibility.

posted by: streever on May 3, 2011  10:58am

Nogame:
We mostly ignore 3/5ths, because of gems like this:
“I have and seen first hand that thing are worse now then back then in 1850.”

Apparently, 3/5ths must be over 160 years old.

I mean, how can you respond to that?

When you do, he posts a report showing that 2011 showed that more African Americans lost access to health care in 2011 than 2010. A sad, sobering statistic that shows all of us how unequal our society is.

I do not disagree with him on that—it is true. We exist in a society where minorities are still discriminated against.

However, his initial hyperbole (2011 worse than 1850) is so ridiculous and clearly untrue that it is impossible to answer him.

Worst still, if you point out that failing of logic, he’ll simply respond with accusations that you are “crooked”, while peppering other unrelated statistics into the mess.

You have to ask yourself “What is the point” in responding to him? There is none.

posted by: Threefifths on May 3, 2011  3:37pm

posted by: nogame on May 3, 2011 10:56am
threefifths: The facts you provide show that things are worse for blacks in 2011 vs 2010.  That seems reasonable and defensible to me.  Your original statement that I took issue with was that things are worse for blacks in 2011 vs 1850.  That’s where you lost credibility.

My credibility is still intact what about this.Would you say her credibility is lost.

More Black Men In Prison Today Than Were Enslaved In 1850

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RYgxkt6-JNc#at=392


http://www.laprogressive.com/law-and-the-justice-system/black-men-prison-system/

Ask some of these students how many times they have been stop by the police.I talk to Black people everyday and the tell me the same thing.It is geting worse for people of color.You heard the term When America Gets a Cold, African Americans Get Pneumonia! Wake up.


posted by: streever on May 3, 2011 10:58am
Nogame:
We mostly ignore 3/5ths, because of gems like this:
“I have and seen first hand that thing are worse now then back then in 1850.”

Apparently, 3/5ths must be over 160 years old.

I mean, how can you respond to that?

Who is we.When did you become a spokesperson? you can respond,It call geting the facts like I do.

However, his initial hyperbole (2011 worse than 1850) is so ridiculous and clearly untrue that it is impossible to answer him.

Read the above report More Black Men In Prison Today Than Were Enslaved In 1850 and tell me if that is not a true statement.

Worst still, if you point out that failing of logic, he’ll simply respond with accusations that you are “crooked”, while peppering other unrelated statistics into the mess.

You need to read what I wrote.I never said you are crooked.I said the Two Party system is crooked and It is.In fact people stop me all of the time and tell me you speak the truth about the Crooked Two Party system. 

You have to ask yourself “What is the point” in responding to him? There is none.

If you statement above is true,They why do you some time respond to my post.

posted by: kat1682 on May 3, 2011  4:19pm

A part of New Haven Promise that I don’t understand is how NHP will support students once they’re in college. If grades in local schools are part of the way they earn this scholarship, how do we ensure that grade inflation doesn’t give these bright, hard-working and highly motivated students false hopes? If/because they’re first generation college students, will their parents/guardians know how to fill out paperwork for Pell grants or other college financial aid? If/because the students are ESL students, and their parents don’t speak/read English well, how will NH Promise help the students fill out required forms, or even figure out what forms are needed? Please know that I’m not saying this from an unsupportive, cynical position - I really want these kids to succeed. I just want to make sure that they have the unique resources that they need to navigate the complicated system of higher education.


I think this program could be fantastic, but I think a little more transparency on what happens once students get to college would be helpful. How will the students be supported to ensure they maintain the required GPA in college to keep this scholarship? Without support or the tools to succeed in their new environment, I worry that this situation could just end up feeling like a broken promise.

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