Anti-Chief Movement Fizzles

That's great--I mean, let's be real. He had been here for 5 months when they called the vote. That really isn't enough time to determine what type of Chief he'll be.

If the police are siding with him, I have confidence that he's off to a good start.

It seems like Cavalierre is just taking an us vs them stance.,

"Also under discussion was a challenge to the union's leadership."

ABOUT TIME!

to streever,.. sorry to say but thatis not the case,...chief limon is hardly here. he is back in chicago most weekends. he has never taken the time to walk around the police station to introduce himself to the rank and file,..give a brief history of his credentials and what he expects of people under his command. he has NEVER taken the time to just drop in on a line up and ask,..how are things going, can we doing anything better,..what is it do you think you need to better perform your job. so, it's not cavalier just taking the stance you suggest,..it's the rank and file..!!!!

To ...DKR:

Contrary to your distorted belief, the Chief does not have to explain his "credentials" for obtaining his position to you. Nor does he have to "drop-in" to line-ups and ask you what he should be doing. By this point in your career you should know what is expected of you... And saying he NEVER has been to line-up is not true. .... As for what you need to perform your job better, I would say you, specifically, need to improve your overall attitude. And lastly, don't speak for the rank-and-file, because we are sick of hearing from you.

well i see i have another fan,...who yet again,..hides behind the computer,..by all means please indentify yourself.show and tell everyone who you are....well if you say he has never been to a line-up,..fine,..but i haven't seen him at any of mine,....nor have i seen hime show any interest in "us" the patrol officers who are the front door to the police dept and the front door to initial calls and most of the incidents happening on the streets. trust me,..i KNOW what is expected of me,..do you?? i can speak for most of the rank and file,..just walk around and ask,..listen to the conversations in the locker,..moral "sucks" and i'm not affraid to say it,..speak it,..nor do i hide behind a monitor.

let me just add,..that a police officer is only as good as his/her training and the tools afforded to him/her,...ask yourself this,.. in light of today's climate and attitude towards law enforcement and a lawful society in general. ct. just recently experienced another "active shooter" incident in manchester,...there is now an "active shooter" incident at johns hopkins,..our job is to protect society,..yale is a very very high profile school and hospital,...the dept has 50-80 long rifles locked up in the armory,..what good are they doing there......last i knew the former chief wanted us to have them out there on the front line...oh wait,..they are caught in the middle of politics and policies,...i hope we don't get an "active shooter incident here in new haven,...!!!! i;m no different then anyone else on the job,..we all complain,...and for those who say the don't,..they are only lying to themselves,..i have the courage to complain aloud,..because i want the tools and training afforded to me that other depts our size and other cities with our level of crime have,..why,..because i like everyone else on this job want to GO HOME AT NIGHT..!!!!

DKR:
Anything is possible, of course, but in the article it really sounds like rank & file are with Limon & against Cav--they came out and entertained voting for a new union prez!

Either way it will be interesting to see what happens. If your job is really going poorly, you have my sympathy.

How does a reporter take this info and declare that the Anti-Chief Movement has fizzled?

I was not at the meeting. However, in having been a member of NHPD for 20+ years, and having been an Executive Board member, I think I have some insight. The motion was on the floor for 20 minutes of discussion, then withdrawn. That probably means the person who first put forth the motion was the one who withdrew it. In other reports I saw about this meeting, the Executive Board will be meeting with Limon on Monday. Just because they did not pass a motion to take a No-Confidence vote, does not mean that they support Limon. The No-Confidence vote would not have even taken place last night if the motion had carried; it we be scheduled for a time when all Union members had been sufficiently notified of the impending vote.

The crux of the issues with Limon have to do mostly with the fact that the Union has filed in excess of 40 Grievances since Limon took the helm. All of these grievances have been ignored by his office. That is Leadership? Many news organizations tried to focus on the "Cleavage Grievance" as why the Union was considering the No-confidence vote. It was only one of many.

When you add to the mix his questionable Patronage Hiring of the two ex-Chicago P.D. members as Assistant Chiefs (one who was 5 years removed for police work, the other who never held rank in a Police Department), there are legitimate concerns about his leadership abilities. Just one day after Wheeler was named as Assistant Chief, Limon put him in charge of the Department, while he went out of town. That speaks volumes to the rank and file about what he thinks about the NHPD.

My take is that the Mayor's Office stepped in and asked the Executive Board to have the No-Confidence Vote postponed/delayed, while they try to iron things out behind the scenes.

So, the Anti-Chief Movement did not necessarily fizzle after last night's vote; it just changed to a different battlefield.

to DKR,
I must say, your comment at first sounded like a bunch of "police comaplaining" but you make some valid points about tools needed and the problem with politics in the police department.

The problem with the NHPD is and always will be King John's hand on decisions, appointments, and police policy. Lewis seemed like a good independant Chief. I hope Limon is of the same mind frame.

To Streever: The rank and file aren't behind Limon and against President Cavaliere. In short, the administration was virtually ignoring the union especially when it came to contract violations the dept. was making. After the media attention, the chief met with the union officials and some real dialog began. If this continues and leads to progress, there is no need for a vote. But the vast majority of police officers support the President whole-heartedly.

He may not be showing up at line-ups but I have been to very few community events where I didn't see the new chief. And at every one he takes the time to talk to people and listen to their stories. And some of those events were on the weekend.

I wish I had time to do the research to see how many departments actually promote from within. It seems that lately the chief job is temporary so I'm not surprised one wouldn't give up their home or have their family move in.

I don't know how he is in the station but I appreciate him out here on the street.