Officer Injured By ATV

Sorry.Show me where they is no community outrage.There is out rage.As I said before.To solve this problem.Find space they can ride.In fact sometimes have allow Tracks for ATV.

Did not say let them ride in the streets.Find a space where they can ride.I said other states have build tracks and some have used grant money to help build tracks.It has not stop all of them from riding in the streets
But it has stop a lot of them.

The number of false equivalencies in this brief, weird dog whistle of an analogy-by-implication would make even certain former presidents proud.

Good questions. I agree with you 100% that building a track or arena for these illegal street or sidewalk riders will have zero effect on why they continually break the law. Breaking the law is their point; it's a way for these people to come together and represent a kind of outlaw/gang mentality.

As to your comment above to ThreeFifths and to me, we both know there are some who are enjoying the thrill of being an outlaw. If you watched any of classic movies about motorcycle riders and drag racing made in the 1950’s, you would realize this is a part of teens and young adults typical misbehavior. Guaranteed that some young person in the city or the suburbs or the countryside will be street racing, ATV-ing, trying to catch air, speeding, etc and somebody will get hurt this year more than once. But kids acting foolish on wheeled items is nothing new.
We are talking about creating a place where we can redirect this type of activity to a safer venue where it won’t endanger or annoy others. If it is done correctly, it could lure more people to use the venue instead, especially if it has viewers, racing and tricks contests are created with prizes, and social media platforms and sponsors give it publicity.
In other states, there are trails, tracks, raceways, arenas, and other places where wheeled enthusiasts can enjoy participating and viewing these types of activities.
They make money from participant fees, viewers fees, concession stands, repairs and gas for vehicles, sponsors, contests, concerts held there, etc. With ironclad signed releases and insurance and a first aid team, this could be a safer way to enjoy and the thing to do on weekends and evenings and for enthusiasts from all over the Northeast from early spring through late fall. Opening trails for ATVs, dirt bikes, snowmobiles, etc year round would also keep them off parkland, farmer’s fields, and the streets.

Nobody is saying the taxpayers have to fund a venue.
We are saying we should try to locate a good venue location and encourage the private sector to create a venue. There are venues in other states that make money off of this type of activity. There isn’t a good venue in the northeast that would be attractive to these types of riders. But they do exist in other parts of the country.

It doesn’t have to be in the city. In fact, we don’t have a good location in the city.
And lots of these riders have their vehicles trucked into the city and then the riders take them off the truck. Lots of them come from our neighboring states. If you read any of the articles about the bike rally, ATV and slingshot riders, and what police are saying about them, you would know that many of these riders have their vehicles trucked in, and come from all over the northeast.

565 Plains Rd, Milford isn’t big enough, probably already has lots of motorcycle/bike club members, isn’t a venue set up for spectators in an arena/raceway type venue. Plus it is pretty close to a residential neighborhood. But it’s a good thought.
There was a truck yard up I-91 that was for sale a while back, and a go cart track up that way a while back, that were just off the highway and they were in an industrial and commercial location not close to houses.
The person who is currently banned by the court from being involved in this type of venue who was running the bike rally would be a good resource for ideas.
My sibling and their family go to bike/scooter/ATV/slingshot rallies in the Midwest says it’s good family fun out there.
If you have a venue with contests, trick riding, races, monster truck rallies, demolition derbies, informal amateur car racing, etc it would draw in a lot of people from the Northeast and Mid Atlantic states and could be a huge tourist draw for booking hotels, places to eat and drink, repair shops, gas stations, DJs and live music acts, etc.
You would have to put in rules like only street legal vehicles can drive in, the rest have to be trucked or trailered in, you’d have to sign insurance waivers, you’d have to have weapons scanning and bag searches, etc.
If it’s profitable and well run in other states, it could be the same here, you just have to identify a location, and find a private company with experience in this type of venue to set it up and run it.

That’s why you would need a venue that allows them to compete and have viewership and have prizes. If you were to create a really great venue that had all the components that would make this attractive to most of them, and that’s where you could get attention, sponsorships, bragging rights, prizes, camaraderie, and only the losers outside the venue were not getting this type of attention or opportunities, then you would draw a great many riders off the streets.

In one of my other comments or replies to comments in this article, the venue would not make sense in the city.
But a lot of these riders get their vehicles trucked in from other locations in and out if the state.
So another location in a more commercial or industrial area in the state would make sense for this type of venue.

So what about those who do show interest?

If you and all the other apologists here really recognized the problem you would be 100 percent in favor of dramatically increasing spending on the New Haven Police Dept., drastically increasing the penalties for this behavior including jail time and deportation, juveniles charged as adults, parents of the juveniles charged as well and held financially responsible for property damage. Are you with me?

It’s about attention and bragging rights. An isolated dirt bike track does not have large crowds cheering riders on. It’s missing the audience the thrill seekers needs.

Again, as in my previous post......This has nothing to do with dirt bike and ATV enthusiasts wanting to enjoy the speed and thrill of riding off road. These people have only one goal, to create mayhem, put the lives of law abiding pedestrians and drivers in danger, ignore law enforcement and post videos of their accomplishments on tiktok. This is part of the culture and is common behavior where at least 95 percent of these people have migrated from. They are creating lawlessness and chaos on the streets here because this has been the norm for decades and decades where they come from. When the police do happen to round up some of them there are always one or two carrying an illegal gun and most have outstanding arrest warrants. Why do so many people keep apologizing and making excuses for this? Does the Pocono dirt track allow the riders to carry illegal guns?

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💯 agree with all you have posted, Toadster. The entitlement by some people is shocking: they will do what they want, when they want, how they want. Legal or not. No legal track or trails to ride? No transportation to/ from? Don't get a damned ATV or dirt bike then. I'm not obligated to financially support or subsidize someone's hobby, especially one that is illegal, destructive to natural habitat ( ripping up woods that are open space, parks, private water company property etc), and capable of injuring or killing a non participant.

What will it take for real action by the mayor? A real PLAN that is proactive. Instead we get the same pacifying rhetoric every year: "in June we'll start to really crack down on this. A new, better task force will be created. Just give us tips. Tell us where they're garaged and we'll confiscate ".
Meanwhile any New Haven resident as well as any police officer, city official, and even Elicker knows full well the chronic offenders, their ages, vehicles, and locations. This is all meaningless lip service. The apathy regarding this issue is astounding. And embarrassing for Elicker. His weakness and incompetence on full display. The fact that he doesn't care about his efficacy or reputation speaks volumes. I voted for him the first time specifically because he said he'd take control of this issue. Never again.