Socialist Scholars Speak Truth To School Power

If you want to get something done in the school system, you have to work with the unions, as well as the board of education, and the teachers, custodians, principals, the board of alders, and the city, to get things done and to get the funding you need directed to the causes you care about. I’m sure it’s not so much l about “the unions getting kids to do their bidding” as getting the unions on board with what the students are trying to accomplish.

What is wrong with labor unions?

Social democracies that are also capitalist countries work just fine in some countries in Europe.
I hate when people lump together Socialism, Democratic Socialism and Social Democracies under one ideological roof or equate it with Communism.
There are good examples and bad examples of all sorts of governments and lots of dictatorships that adopted the term communism or socialism or democracies when they are really dictatorships or run by the upper class elite 2%, and not really following the actual ideals of communism or socialism or democracy.

There are social democracies that also have capitalism in some European countries, especially Scandinavian countries, that are quite successful.
Stop writing off socialism in democracies with capitalism as incompatible. Our social programs like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the many programs adopted during President Roosevelt administration not only helped pull the country out of poverty during the Great Depression, they built many of the public buildings and parks amenities and public infrastructure that we all enjoy to this day. These were social good programs that are socialism inspired.
Socialism, communism and dictatorships do not necessarily have to go hand in hand.
Socialism can exist in democracies and in capitalist counties if there is a balance and moderation in the way it is practiced.

Let them start working and earning their keep and buying a house/car/renting apt and see how fast they change their tunes. Engels was rich and Mark was a lifelong leech. What these kids think they are getting and what socialism actually is are not the same thing. They will learn the hard way.
And yes, students are pawns of the adults in the building... this is not from them.

What makes you assume they don't study? They are all hard working students and academics are always first with them. Also be mindful these are children not adults. Keep your comments light.

I think you know the answer to your last question. Better question is, who is in charge of repairing our utilities? Why do I have to wait in a line to use a single sink cause the other four don't work?

That's why you turn your entire prison system into a forced labor machine like the Soviets did, doesn't cost much money that way! At the peak of the gulag system, there were 2 million forced laborers building roads, laying railroad tracks, and doing other hard labor civil infrastructure work.

Lol, and you become so reliant on your forced labor system that you assign police throughout your country arrest quotas so that the gulag slave labor pool remains flush for all your projects.

Socialism: Utopian and Scientific by Fredrick Engles. Good read!

I agree You should not comment any further as they are children. They will likely be reading these comments. For grown adults to have such comments towards children says a lot about your character.

What the actual hell... Is this google doc real? If that is the case, this is insane.

This is actually insane that these groups are operating out in the open without any sort of push back or critical response.

What is happening right now. NHI, please tell me you guys are aware of what you are platforming here?

These teenagers are advocating for systems of government, economic policies, and social structures that have killed MILLIONS of people..... TENS OF MILLIONS!!!!! EXECUTIONS OF DISSIDENTS, MASS STARVATION!!!! And all of the information on this is available in intricate detail! Telling you from start to finish, from the micro to the macro, from the individual to the group, from the group to the state, with statistical evidence, with anecdotal evidence, with 1st person accounts, with 2nd hand accounts, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOCIALSIM OR COMMUNISM ON A MODERN STATE SCALE.... IT DOES NOT WORK!

You might get 5 years, 20 years, or maybe even 100 years of a socialist or communist governmental system or society. BUT PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, or anything that you consider important or dear enough for you to pledge your life upon, go read what happens when you try to implement these utopian systems, and what always and inevitably happens to them.

All it takes to graduate from an elite East Coast school (and I'm assuming you mean high school/boarding school, because there are elite universities with specialized focuses throughout this good old US of A) is money, or in the case of the Ivy's, legacy attendance and money.

"Why is it that some adults scoff when students learn..?"

Because people are often jealous of people who possess what they lack.

Look here rich kid, my father in law is a Croat, he grew up in rural Croatia within Socialist Yugoslavia which is held up by some Dem Socs and tankies to be a shining example of a Socialist state, with partially state owned worker coops being in charge of all major industries, and state run healthcare and social services. As I'm sure you know, Croatia was considered very well off compared to the other Yugoslavic countries, and do you want to know what socialist Croatia was like? Let me give you a picture. My father-in-law did not have electricity in his village until he was 6 years old (this was mid 1960s), his home had hard packed dirt floors, everyone slept in the kitchen during the winter because their single stove was located there, most folks outside of the cities lived primarily off subsistence farming and working odd jobs in their villages. But lets get to the state run healthcare. The dentist that served his village and a couple others never had anesthetics, because these state supplied medicines were never delivered in their full amounts. Why? Because the theft of state supplied products starts as soon as they leave the factory, continues along the logistic routes of the supply chain, and by the time it got to the rural villages maybe 5-10% of the intended delivery was left. My father-in-law is terrified of the dentist until this day because he cannot forget the screaming he heard in his childhood as people had teeth pulled without any anesthetics. Lets talk about the hospital, to avoid a 12 to 24 hour wait in the waiting room you had to pay a bribe, to avoid another 12 - 24 wait in your hospital bed you had to pay a bribe to get them to start your treatment immediately, and the best part, the hospital was always undersupplied in all regards because of the blatant theft of state supplies in transit by the logistical workers. When dealing with any state apparatus bribes were required to get anything done.

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Some other interesting things I've learned from my Croatian father-in-law, how to hide valuables in your home with the assumption that someone looking for those valuables will be well equipped with metal detectors and tools used to detect cavities in walls. Do you know why he knew those things? Because it was not uncommon for people to have their possessions seized by the state, and if a government official wanted to take your stuff they could drum up a plethora of reasons to do so, none of which you had recourse against, because you were not free. My father-in-law joined the seminary to get out of Yugoslavia (and obviously he didn't stay in the seminary).

There was no freedom of speech, there was no freedom of the press, because that is what is required maintain control of a Socialist State. Why do you think things fell apart so quickly after Tito died? Because it takes a strong man, who uses fear, who represses the public, to keep a socialist state together.

You think that foreign interference led to the dissolution of Socialist Yugoslavia? Try this, the only people who wanted to be a part of Socialist Yugoslavia were people that held cushy government positions. Your common man, your villager, wanted to escape the socialist yoke being forced upon them. They wanted their countries to be their own.

My wife tells me about the first time she visited Croatia with her father after all the civil wars had wrapped up, something that struck her was that all the villagers her father grew up with, the people his same age, looked 20 years older than he did.

Do you want me to tell you about my father-in-law's brother? He got into medical device sales in the 90's, working primarily in the eastern bloc countries, the former Soviet and Yugoslav states. If you think your average hospital was in decent shape in those countries, think again.

But please tell me, who is your empirical source for living under socialism?

Ok, comrade union_yes, let me ask to answer this...why, since the the fall of the Axis powers in '45, have peoples of the worlds most oppressive regimes(the Iron curtain countries of the communist bloc, China, Cuba, Venezuela, etc..) being killing themselves to emigrate to the Capitalist USA? Conversely, how many of those countries accept immigrants? I'll give you clues, in no particular order...freedom, the American dream, the ability to make something of yourself of your own choosing...the ability to enrich yourself and your family through hard work and opportunity. And then there's very few, if not zero. Figure it out. And, by the way, I lived in West Germany, when East Germany locked you in, and locked others out. It was interesting visiting colorful West Berlin, where across the wall, it really was drab black, white, and dirty grey. That was all I needed to see. And in '89, when the wall came down, the difference was even more stark. So there's that. Socialism? Nein Danke.

Understandably your choice of words is delicate as the directives authors may read these posts but their document speaks for itself and should be a concern for parents because it is not grounded in reality - even for this young age group. Providing a better education should be the top priority for underperforming schools.

I don't see any comments here being against unions or organizing. You want to form a union? Go right ahead, but separate yourselves from Dem Socs, socialists, and communists, you know, the people advocating for political/societal/economic systems that to institute require the seizing of private property and businesses.

"There needs to be only one "directive": tax the living baheebus out of Yale." Your desperate rant is nothing but a misguided and legally dubious attempt to place the blame for NH's financial problems anywhere but where it belongs, on NH itself and the state's insufficient reimbursements. I would venture to say that Yale brings in more than a few shekels to the overall economy of our fair city. I hesitate to use it, but I will bring out the oft-used old question, "What would NH be without Yale?" Also, why does NH have the largest proposed budget of any CT city? (NH, $662.7 million; Stamford, $654.7 million; Bpt. $605,136,209 million; Hartford, $422.7 million)

There is a pretty substantial difference with the Social Democracies that you are referring to, and Democratic Socialism in its current form. These Dem Soc's and those even farther left do not want to be like Germany, or Denmark, or Sweden. I would encourage you to look into what these people are actually about.

European countries that were socialist are now all capitalist. There's far more inequality in countries like Poland now than there was when they were socialist, but overall, people want to opportunity to compete. One of the directives I actually agree with is "life skills". NHPS is failing to educate students on how to provide for themselves after graduation, actually earn a living, and avoid falling into poverty by poor family planning or burying themselves in debt for shiny stuff.

The IRC covers tax-exemption from income taxes. (In fact, Trump's tax reforms included incomes taxes on endowment income of wealthy non-profits for the first time ever). Yale's property tax-exemption is rooted in its charter, a contract between Yale and Connecticut. Even 300 years ago, New Haven fought for Yale knowing that it would be a major economic engine. As for Yale's impact, the poor would lack the good-paying union jobs that Yale provides, the tax revenue from the privileged, educated residents of all races, as well as support jobs in spin-off industries that are here because of Yale. Google "multiplier effect". Where would Union Yes work if not at Yale? New Haven once had a vibrant industrial sector, and she might have made guns at Winchester or Marlin, ammunition at Olin, or brake pads at Rockbestos, but those jobs are gone now. Absent Yale, New Haven would have a port, and nothing else.